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[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago (7 children)

The mask comes off at LWN, as two editors (jake and corbet) dive in to frantically defend the honour of Justine fucking Tunney against multiple people pointing out she's a Nazi who fills her projects with racist dogwhistles

https://lwn.net/Articles/998196/

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago

Not the only trans NRXer to pull this I’m afraid.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago

Is Google lacing their free coffee??? How could a woman with at least one college degree believe that the government is even mechanically capable of dissolving into a throne for Eric Schmidt.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

fuck me that is some awful fucking moderation. I can’t imagine being so fucking bad at this that I:

  • dole out a ban for being rude to a fascist
  • dole out a second ban because somebody in the community did some basic fucking due diligence and found out one of the accounts defending the above fascist has been just a gigantic racist piece of shit elsewhere, surprise
  • in the process of the above, I create a safe space for a fascist and her friends

but for so many of these people, somehow that’s what moderation is? fucking wild, how the fuck did we get here

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago

See, you're assuming the goal of moderation is to maintain a healthy social space online. By definition this excludes fascists. It's that old story about how to make sure your pink bar doesn't turn into a nazi punk bar. But what if instead my goal is to keep the peace in my nazi punk bar so that the normies and casuals keep filtering in and out and making me enough money that I can stay in business? Then this strategy makes more sense.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Centrists Don't Fucking Be Like This challenge not achieved yet again

https://social.kernel.org/notice/AoGpED4fw3LSGhxTLU

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

fwiw this link didn't jump me to a specific reply (if you meant to highlight a particular one)

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago

It didn’t scroll for me either but there’s a reply by this corbet person with a highlighted background which I assume is the one intended to be linked to

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

@dgerard @BlueMonday1984 also, and I know this is way beside the point, update the design of your website, motherfuckers

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago

I don't run any websites, what are you coming at me for

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Post by Corbet the editor. "We get it: people wish that we had not highlighted work by this particular author. Had we known more about the person in question, we might have shied away from the topic. But the article is out now, it describes a bit of interesting technology, people have had their say, please let's leave it at that."

So you updated the article to reflect this right? padme.jpg

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Seems like they've actually done this now. There's a preface note now.

This topic was chosen based on the technical merit of the project before we were aware of its author's political views and controversies. Our coverage of technical projects is never an endorsement of the developers' political views. The moderation of comments here is not meant to defend, or defame, anybody, but is in keeping with our longstanding policy against personal attacks. We could certainly have handled both topic selection and moderation better, and will endeavor to do so going forward.

Which is better than nothing, I guess, but still feels like a cheap cop-out.

Side-note: I can actually believe that they didn't know about Justine being a fucking nazi when publishing this, because I remember stumbling across some of her projects and actually being impressed by it, and then I found out what an absolute rabbit hole of weird shit this person is. So I kinda get seeing the portable executables project, thinking, wow, this is actually neat, and running with it.

Not that this is an excuse, because when you write articles for a website that should come with a bit of research about the people and topic you choose to cover and you have a bit more responsibility than someone who's just browsing around, but what do I know.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago

Well, at least they put down something. More than I expected.

And doing research on people? In this economy?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago

so is corbet the same kind of fucker that'll complain "everything is so political nowadays"? it seems like they are