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I'm not sure how to write this without it sounding like ragebait or a fed post.

But why do most fellow Marxists critically support Russia today?

I can understand having seen Russia as a potential temporary ally or a necessary power that can stand against US / NATO hegemony over the globe. In short I can understand it from a strategic standpoint.

But what about morals of this?

To explain I've seen seen Russia as a necessary potential ally in the past too. But that has changed with the Ukraine war and concurrent events in Russia.

The way I see it, even with a CIA coup, a full scale invasion of a country still isn't justified. It's bordering on insanity in my mind to start such a war. The way the war and conscription is handled in Russia is also highly critiquable. The way people who fall from grace, also "fall out of windows" too.

The other major event that made me doubt Putin more was part of the leaks that happened with Navalny's death. Specifically the revelation of how Putin spend hundreds of millions not just on a palace like so many corrupt leaders and dictators do, but essentially what amounts to an own private town.

This is what lead me to believe that Putin devolved into insanity and paranoia from what he used to be, a calculated sensible dictator.

With all this in mind, why should we offer critical support to Russia instead of Ukraine?

Yes you can argue that Ukraine has been taken over via a pro-western coup regime, but they're still not the aggressors in the war.

I find it morally questionable to support an aggressor in such a clear scenario. And purely strategically speaking with how Russia is bogged down in Ukraine, I find their military capabilities not great either for any conflict with NATO.

Do any of you have any moral reasoning to critically support Russia? Or do you support it out of strategic reasons despite moral objections?

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 day ago (3 children)

This post has been reported for obvious trolling, but I think it's worth leaving it up for the discussion as people have explained what critical support means here.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

I like how feds come in here with their lib upvotes bots thinking they will achieve some overall negative impact upon the community with type of shit, but all it does is act as a massive info dump for all sorts of source material for arguing better against this lib brained bullshit in the future. They may think "well I'm making them waste all this time and effort responding to the troll post." Like we all aren't sitting around wasting our time online anyway but now we have an actual point to focus on. Like the majority of us aren't just sitting here waiting for this exact scenario to infor dump our collective communist autism onto whatever poor soul dares to say something like this in our community.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 hours ago

It's not just wasting our time. They are giving us a stone to sharpen our rhetoric.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 hours ago

they just exhaust themselves replying to 20 different people on all fronts and lemmygrad comes out of it having perfected its understanding of the issue at hand.