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Never give the cops your phone.

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 9 hours ago (4 children)

Never give cops your phone, yes. Also, don't use biometrics to lock your phone. Police can legally force you to unlock with your thumb print, they legally (and like, physically) cannot force you to reveal a passcode stored only in your brain.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Oh forcing physically works very well with a gun to your head, but yeah not legal ofc.

Also any phone that has been out of your vision in the hands of police, border agencies or TSA is electronic waste.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 8 hours ago

Just to be clear, they can't legally search your phone at all without either consent or a warrant. There is absolutely no reason you need to hand your phone to a cop during a traffic stop, no matter how it is secured.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 hours ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Patterns have less possible combinations than pins, and is easier to shoulder snoop than a pin. Edit: and also leaves more visible smudges from oils in your finger.

Also in older android versions (it might be changed by now) they used to store it in plain text.

Alpha-numeric passwords are the strongest, but is very inconveinient to most people so PIN is the second strongest and a good compromise between security and convienience.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 hours ago

That’s just a passcode for practical purposes

[–] [email protected] 22 points 9 hours ago (4 children)

Obligatory reminder that (for iPhone at least) hitting the right side button rapidly 5 times locks out biometrics and forces pin entry

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago

alternatively hold power and one of the volume buttons for a few seconds

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

That dials 911 on Android. That was a fun feature to discover on my new phone. I'm sitting there, trying to turn up the volume for a podcast and it's not working. Pull my phone out of my pocket and see that it's on a countdown before it dials out! The count is down to 3! No, no, no, no, no, no, no! Cancel! Hang up! What the fuck!? Why is that a thing!?

That shit got disabled real quick.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Ngl i got a voice telling me i should try it now

Edit: ok you weren't joking 🤣

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 hours ago

Thats handy AF. Thanks.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 hours ago (3 children)

For Android, a reboot forces a pin code.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

There's also 'lockdown mode' which forces a pin and hides most info from the lockscreen.

Long-press power, then select 'lockdown'. (you may have to enable this feature in settings)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago

A useful aspect of Lockdown mode (on top of it potentially being quick) is that you can still get into the camera without unlocking it (for me it's a double tap on the power). When you're locked down they can't navigate to your photos, but you might want to be able to record things.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

And to get the reboot option on Pixels, long press Power and Volume Up. Infinitely more annoying than just long pressing the power button.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

What? Do you mean to get the pop up on screen? That's still a simple long press on the power button. I just did it now on my Pixel.

Long power + Vol Up does a hard reboot directly without calling the power menu

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Default after Pixel 5 is to bring up Google Assistant with a long press of the power button.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 hours ago

Then they must have changed their minds again, I haven't changed this setting so it's default has been long press for power button

But I did find the setting so you can change it and not worry about it anymore: Settings > System > Gestures > Press and Hold power button

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

But it also takes like 10-15 seconds of holding it. Not something you can do when a cop holds out his hand for your phone.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 hours ago

For a hard reboot yea. It's faster to do the onscreen menu which pops up in like a second

Or you can root and restore such powers to Tasker

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 hours ago

This is the case on iOS as well but restarting takes longer and more explicit interactions than pressing a button five times