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Do you feel the same way about applying Nazi to alt-right?
Tankie refers to a specific subset of people, those who are fine with oppression and authoritarianism, maybe not everyone on Hexbear aren’t all tankies but it’s the Nazi bar problem and best practice is to kick them out.
Hexbears say they aren't sectarians, but then they effectively drive out anyone who doesn't do their cartoonist self parody.
I think it’s pretty authoritarian to seek to stifle any speech. Where I have to obviously draw the line is groups that are clearly hate groups.
It’s tough to toe the line and I appreciate your intellectually honest retort. I understand where you’re coming from and on the surface, it seems to force people to find some sweeping rule for most situations.
Perhaps that’s the problem though. Perhaps painting with a broad brush is the problem. Perhaps comments should be moderated on a case by case basis. I know I’ve said some things on hexbear that got me banned for being “patsoc” and it rubbed me the wrong way.
Heavy handed moderation and generalization of entire swaths of people just disgusts me.
I honestly don’t know the answer. But I do know that bundling anyone who has communist views into some reductive title is shitty, intellectually dishonest bootlicker behavior. Maybe OP doesn’t even realize it.
Ohhhhh you're a free speech absolutist. Gotcha.
There's a fuckton of philosophy and case law behind why free speech absolutism is a bad idea. Maybe you can spend some time looking into that, you might gain some insight into why everyone is shooting you down.
Also, words mean things and while authoritarianism always shuts down free speech eventually, not all restrictions on free speech is authoritarianism. This would be the nuance that you claimed other people refuse to see, that you yourself have eschewed in this case.
I think we can debate the merits of this irl. However, on the internet, absolutely not. It's not one person, one voice here. It's very soon to be one person, ten thousand voices. There are already troll farms where nothing is genuine. If today's AI can do one thing, it's repeat a talking point of your choosing ten times every time you see someone say something to the contrary.
Well there you go, we can all agree based on your own words. Tankies are clearly a hate group. Their only ideology is hatred for America, or “the west”.
@an0nym0us
I think it's much easier to see when someone else's slang/shorthand becomes reductive than when you're doing it yourself.
Well communist views != tankie for one thing
This. Not even all Marxist-Leninists are tankies, despite the intellectually dishonest and historical-revisionist takes that I've heard (most often that it was Trotskyists, I suspect due to cognitive dissonance - specifically, unwillingness to acknowledge that followers of one's ideology has done anything wrong - not horseshoe nonsense but it rhymes with authoritarian right-wingers). The term was coined by the Marxist-Leninist Communist Party of Great Britain because of their disgust at the USSR sending in tanks to quell unrest.