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Thanks for the link, FD really just be showing up in mad podcasts.
Edit: I saw the description, and I completely memory-holed the PF Jung appearance he did previously. I think his criticisms of engaging the Black electorate are valid and are often mistakes even more solidified leftists make, but some of his exclusions as well as general decisions come off as a tactical mix with being soc dem, and I am still unsure of the mix but would lean pretty 40/60, spitballing.
I find the idea of the PF stream gross, but did actually see it in full out of morbid curiosit,y and you can see he's basically being the non-confrontation Black guy with some degree of intention. There is something to be said about appearing on their platform instead of bringing them to yours regarding platforming, but I still generally disliked the move, as frankly, I don't have much faith in anyone who makes spouting the evil rhetoric their job at being misguided. I guess one could argue agitprop of Jung's audience if they wanted to be INSANELY generous.
This is me riffing before starting the stream btw, gonna listen to it for a bit to keep certified video watcher status since I'm discussing it and will return if anything inside changes my thoughts.
I appreciate your thoughts, don't have much to offer from my end. I respect him showing up for the discussion in the link and sort of "taking it on the chin" in their conversation
After watching it, I think the only thing I would really change about my thoughts is the split regarding ideology/tactics leaning a lot more towards tactics. Most of the criticisms levied here were then covered in the podcast.