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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It's nice to blame voters for parties failing to win elections. That absolves the party of responsibility - "we were right, it was voters who are wrong".

But that won't win an election. And that attitude will gift the mid terms and even 2028 to the republicans.

The DNC fucked up - it backed Biden despite clear signs he was not a good candidate for this election, the primary process who a fig leaf of democracy rather than putting forward the party's best and brightest, it then fought concerns of Biden health and hid the truth, then when he finally stepped down late in the day it arranged a coronation for Harris. And then after behaving undemocratically repeatedly it had the gall to make the election about "saving democracy".

Voters didn't do these things, the DNC did.

Instead of demonising voters and non voters, it's better to ask what should the party have done differently to win them over and what does it need to do to win them over in the mid terms.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It doesn't absolve. If people are acting like it does, then they're wrong and it still is true without absolving. It just points out that people voting for trump is overwhelmingly the problem.

And also, the Democrats ran their failed diet republican strategy. But if they fucked up twice as bad as they did, there's sill no reason to vote trump, and that remains the main issue.

The non-magas have to lock arms and stand together until ranked choice, no electoral college, and no citizens united. That's the front door to the future.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

The non-magas have to lock arms and stand together

Except not all non-magas want to. You can scream and cry and call names all you want. They just don't show up to the booth. So what should we do instead, because living in the imaginary land of what voters ought to do has gotten us another Trump term.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's nice for you to ignore that over half the voters in this country voted for someone that they knew was a sexist, racist, felon. A slice of bread with no advertising should have gotten more votes than him.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

@ColeSloth, ok, but what does it say about our candidate and campaign that they lost to such a clown? Thats what we should be focusing on, not name calling and finger pointing.

and as for:

The non-magas have to lock arms and stand together

88% of the dems were against gaza and the dem leaders decided they didnt care and would lock the voices of people who do care out of the convention. Thats acting like an imperial, not a coalition partner. If the dems want a coalition with the left, then act like it, otherwise you should learn to be happy with losing, because centrists dont have the votes to win much of anything, and they didnt have them before the election either.

Progressives are tired of this republican bullshit within the democratic party. If you want to be republicans, great, then go ally with maga. Otherwise tack left. You pick, we'll be standing right here for a short while, then we need to ditch you lame centrists milquetoasts for good and go it alone.