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And I'm being serious. I feel like there might be an argument there, I just don't understand it. Can someone please "steelman" that argument for me?

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[–] [email protected] 119 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

I know people who voted neither candidate because Trump was horrible and Harris was pro-choice. Single-issue voters are the death of democracy. Full stop.

[–] [email protected] 59 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

I said months ago that we were going to "single issue" our way to Trump 2.0, and I've never ever wanted to be wrong more than when I said that.

[–] [email protected] 60 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

nearly all the single-issue voters on the right vote in lock-step unison, and have for decades.

democrats and progressives seem to just toss in the towel if they aren't getting everything they want, right now.

it takes time to build something great, it takes but a moment to destroy it all. welcome to total destruction.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 7 hours ago

Yep, to all that, and I've often grumbled the same things.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 hours ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 hours ago

Only a radical speaks in absolutes

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Thing is you can actually be radical. In a healthy democracy you need some small fringes to exert pressure, e.g. civil right activist groups and so on so that the government isn't able to just completely ignore portions of the population.

But to be effective as an activist you have to know when to put on pressure and when to unite. Malcolm X or Fred Hampton didn't go vote for David Duke just because MLK was a pacifist.

This was the wrong time to pressure because as always activists dramatically misread the levels of actual support for their cause and dramatically underestimate how much support the general populace gives the opposition.

Most people don't even agree on the very basic facts of reality or that such a thing can even exist, how tf are you gonna expect to convince them of anything? What you gonna write some long post on it? Good luck - they cannot read.

Humanity is just a dogshit species. To even agree that we shouldn't stab ourselves in our proverbial balls with a proverbial milwaukee power drill - it takes like generations and most people are always for the status quo and the worst possible version of everything is the default we have to work from and with, it's just a cruel joke and it would be more existentially comforting if progress was outright impossible.