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The Democratic party refused to understand that courting the right doesn't work - and now it's cost them the election
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this post was submitted on 06 Nov 2024
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Nobody is under the illusion that Trump is better for the situation in Gaza than Harris.
But, too many left-leaning voters feel they have to "take a stand" by staying home or voting third party. I have several friends who did exactly that, even though it's abundantly clear that staying home is effectively a vote for Trump.
Meanwhile, NOBODY on the conservative side is doing that shit. It's been true since the Reagan era, the conservatives put aside any personal distaste they have, and they get behind their candidate.
That is the big problem here that people just don't want to admit.
you need this
Could it be the dogshit right wing Hillary-repeating campaign the Harris folks ran?
The same campaign leftists have been tearing apart and pointing out the objective failures of, predicting exactly this result?
No, it must be the nonexistent leftists who are wrong.
You people are hilarious lmao. You seriously think the average American even knows one shred of leftist theory?
I guess if you people knew why you lost, you wouldn’t have lost so I can’t blame you too much. The curse of a weak mind must be hard to bear.
"We've been actively trying to tear you down, it's not our fault."
Correct its the fault of the person advocating a genocide.
'dont commit a genocide, toss in some prolabor policies.'
'Stop tearing me down!'
Do you even fucking hear yourself. Lol
"Do you hear yourself" from you is rich.
Indeed my speech is high in protein. It does the soul good. You should try not supporting a genocide sometime yourself. Once you can do that all the other little groups im sure you've tried to brow beat people with would suddenly also be protected.
That's a lot of words that mean fuck all.
But I guess you've got to score your nonexistent points somehow.
Just look at the numbers. Harris will probably finish 15 million votes behind Biden 2020. Those are people who could have voted, but didn't.
Almost like Kamala could have changed her stance on the situation and got those people out to vote for her. But sure, let's blame people not willing to hold their nose and vote for more genocide.
Hmm yes let us instead enable the guy who wants to give Israel a blank check with no leash, very smart
And by doing so the voted for more genocide. What a bunch of dumb cunts.
I agree. The Democrat party has become nothing more than a bunch of dumb corporate bureaucrats. Will they ever learn?
Aww dude. Good job completely missing the point. But hey if it helps you sleep at night.
Good job getting Trump elected.
Pretty impressive since I'm in Ireland. And you're the one trying to justify not voting.
Who said they didnt vote? If you support a genocide you are the problem.
Aww dude. Get off the high horse more a moment before the next thing comes along and you forget all Palestine.
How is allowing the person who will support even more genocide better?
you think you're going to provide a new argument I havent heard in the last year with this hot take?
if you want to discuss shades of genocides you're comfortable with. feel free. I'm not interested. I stop at any. I'm sorry your preferred candidate didn't meet that very low bar and lost. truly I am. learn from this and demand better.
and frankly? she lost. it was already demonstrated how absolutely horrible of a campaign she ran, empirically. I no longer need to argue on this topic anymore. the proof is in the pudding. you guys supported a genocidal candidate in a party that loathes violence and tried absolutely toxic brow beating people with 'lesser evil` nonsense so they tuned out and didn't vote for you.
you were warned. we told you what we were doing. and you decided that 'genocide is a good hill to die on for harris'. even if you magically convinced me it was in my best interest she win (which you didn't need to, I already knew this, Im from a safe state, I could have just let you idiots blissfully lose); you'd still need to manage 19.9999million more people. 🤷
next time learn that convincing 1 person they need to shift (harris) is the easier target. esp for something as trivial as don't genocide.
Please get off your high horse and read. It'll help you not look like an insufferable ass.
Wrong person :)
That's not the gotcha you think it is. You just admitted to jumping into an argument without context.
Not something you should be proud of.
Lol sorry you were quoting yourself from 5 messages ago. Thought you were quoting me. And i never said i was from ireland (since im not). Nor does it matter in the context of the conversation were your from. My points still stand.
They (the Democrats) were told what was going to happen, they ignored it, and got absolutely crushed. I dont know what to say except the idiocy is astounding.
And anyone defending that position by saying how dare you not support harris because trump! Needs to stfu and do some self reflection. If trump is as bad as you say, well then maybe you should have told harris (and her supporters, especially you irish child) to stfu and just give the muslims what they wanted for the greater good.
The idea that the people saying 'stop murdering us' should stfu and get in line for the greater good is fucking hilariously selfish by the people telling them that.
The polls had been signaling for months that switching on gaza increased likely hood of voters voting Democrats by 30-40%. Well you saw what happened. So kindly fuck off. I live here and have to deal with the fallout of you idiots.