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Spooky stuff that helps explain a lot of the dysfunction flowing out from Microsoft.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Did they read the same article? It addresses this pretty directly I thought.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Can you cite where they reference the reproducibility issue in psychology? I thought I read it careful and thought deeply about my criticism. I don't expect people to agree, of course, but to engage sincerely. So I went back and scanned it again and still don't see it mentioned.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

you’re about to waste my fucking time but:

Mindset theory itself is incredibly controversial for a number of reasons, chief of which is that nobody can seem to reliably replicate the results of Dweck's academic work.

Ed links an article that talks about elements of the replication crisis in enough detail for an article where the replication crisis isn’t anywhere near on-topic, and I don’t think the article would be better if it included that detail

feel free to include evidence in your reply that you aren’t here to be a debate shitlord

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

I'm also confused as to what the takeaway was supposed to be here. Like, because a whole bunch of different famous psych studies fail to replicate maybe this one is less invalid?

Also, were they expecting Ed Zitron of all people to not write a polemical?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

(as usual) I made the mistake of looking at their posting history

three internet cookies if you know what’s behind door number one

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

go sealion on someone else’s doorstep

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Attempting to engage in a sincere and civil discussion isn't sealioning.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

"I have been unfailingly polite, and [your lemmy instance has] been nothing but rude."

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Fun fact: The Sea Lion is officially 10 years old!

https://wondermark.com/c/1062/

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

"Very well, we shall resume in an hour" will never not crack me up

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I'm familiar with the original comic. If every attempt to engage in sincere conversations across different points of view on the internet is interpreted sealioning, then there's no room for sincere engagement.

But this is a matter of perception. Am I a troll or some who sincerely disagrees. I had an honest critique of the article so I expected some heat, but I was that there would be some sincere criticism of the idea. Rather, and shame on me for thinking otherwise, I've been called names and my criticism has been dismissed whole cloth. I'm a little surprised that this is as hurtful as it is and that I'm surprised that I am this pricked. Not exactly sure why I continue. Any case, that's my reply. Good day, sir!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

I’m a little surprised that this is as hurtful as it is and that I’m surprised that I am this pricked

yeah let me help you out with that

we’ve been on the internet long enough to know how a debate shitlord says “go fuck yourself” and you came in fucking swinging

who in the fuck introduces themselves to strangers like this? of course people are hostile

anyway you failed to prove you’re not a debate shitlord so

ban reason: debate shitlord

bye

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

Very well. We shall resume in an hour.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I will never forget the dude who argued online that the sealion is the real victim here (a victim of the “disgruntled female”)

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

amazingly, I’ve seen (and I think banned) people who’ve tried to sealion about the sealion comic. these assholes really are shameless public masturbators

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

the poster themselves would have to answer but generally I find the answer to be no

a rather particular form of inductive reasoning. not quite induncetive, but close

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

I did. And carefully.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

induncetive

I would argue that it is exactly in-dunce-itive reasoning

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

Stop dickriding the growth mindset, and we'll stop being so mean about it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Being so aggressively mid will frequently get you the mean.

Edit: Before you pedantically argue that the median != mean, I'd suggest that your posts plainly fall on the normal curve because they are all typically boring, standard deviations.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

it’s fucking amazing the volume of these guys who think we have a rule about tone (we don’t, we never will, spaces with rules like that end up using them against justifiably angry marginalized people) because it’s what they’re used to using as a weapon in the politics sections of reddit and lemmy, but don’t bother to see what our only written rule is (because they don’t fucking read, there’s no room for that when your whole personality is cosplaying as the smart adult in the room)