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The Republican presidential nominee made the weirdest comment in his interview with Joe Rogan.

JD Vance claimed that he and Donald Trump could likely win the votes of “normal” gay men because they “just want to be left the hell alone.” 

Vance appeared on The Joe Rogan Experience for a three-hour interview released Thursday, discussing everything from Emily in Paris to him standing at his front door for an hour with a loaded gun after the first Trump assassination attempt. 

But one of the wildest moments in the interview came when Vance told Rogan he believed he and Trump would win the “normal gay guy vote” due to the “extremist religion” of “wokeness.”

“Frankly, I wouldn’t be surprised if me and Trump won just the normal gay guy vote, because again, they just want to be left the hell alone,” Vance said. “And now you have all this crazy stuff on top of it that they’re like ‘No, no … we didn’t want to give pharmaceutical products to 9-year-olds who are transitioning their genders.’” 

Rogan then went on to discuss how it’s actually the transgender movement that’s homophobic, pushing some of his most outlandish anti-trans views yet

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[–] [email protected] 73 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

...to him standing at his front door for an hour with a loaded gun after the first Trump assassination attempt.

I'm sorry, what? This isn't the story?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago

From a fictional novel, maybe a thriller or a horror, I could see it. If the nebulous they that is acting against the protagonist takes out the protagonist's side-kick, it would make sense the plan is to then come after the protagonist. If he wasn't republican, I wouldn't be surprised if he was a big reader of fiction. I would expect a man to be as deep into fictional novels as he is into couches. They make great places to read.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 weeks ago

They want to normalize this. They want their supporters to encite violence through the means of weird, out of the ordinary violent behaviors.

And that is from someone that's pro-gun. This is fucked up.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

Also that wasn't the first attempt, there have been at least two previous people who tried to kill him

  1. 2016 Las Vegas Attempt- On June 18, 2016, a man attempted to steal a police officer's firearm and use it on Trump, during a rally in Las Vegas, Nevada. 20-year-old Michael Steven Sandford, who was visiting the U.S. from the U.K., was immediately subdued by the officer, and was taken into custody by the Secret Service. Sandford later told officials that his plan had been to kill Trump, who was speaking at the Treasure Island Hotel and Casino.

  2. 2017 Forklift Incident- On September 6, 2017, Gregory Lee Leingang stole a forklift from a North Dakota oil refinery, with the intent of driving it into Trump's presidential vehicle while he was en route to a rally. Leingang was stopped before reaching the motorcade after the vehicle got stuck in the refinery. Officials originally thought that Leingang had stolen the forklift for a much less serious reason, and only reevaluated the seriousness after he confessed to trying to kill the then-president by flipping the vehicle.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago

I’m from the UK and the first one interested me.

Steven Sandford was sentenced to one year for this, which is shockingly low (not that I’m pro punishment, I believe in a rehabilitation approach).

He was released and deported back home, in 2017, after 5 months in federal prison, but he had been in custody for 11 months in total; assuming whilst awaiting trial.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

he confessed to trying to kill the then-president by flipping the vehicle.

well, it is a plan. not a good one, but still a plan.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Just think of how hilarious the timeline where he actually managed to flip the vehicle would have been. I'm not sure if it would have been funnier if he flipped the vehicle with Trump in it or some other vehicle in the motorcade.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That thing weighs 9 ton (20000 lb). I think it is more likely he would have flipped the forklift... Considering he is bulletproof, because otherwise I am pretty sure he would be dead long before that.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah, such a scenario would have to involve a comedy of errors leading up to the attempted flip, which would add to the spectacle. Benny Hill playing in the background.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 weeks ago

He had concepts of a plan.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

All the botched Trump assassination attempts really remind me of the short story where the guy has to keep on going back in time to stop the other time travelers that are trying to kill Hitler because as bad as Hitler was, in this timeline, he was necessary.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Honestly, if trump is the necessary evil, I think I'd just rather we not. Like maybe the country needs a hard reset. It could be part punishment part cleansing.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago

Well he did already have a run at it. Maybe we are getting lucky and he might lose, go away, and just be a skidmark on history instead of a complete shit pants situation. I’m choosing to believe the time travelers who stopped the assassination attempts from succeeding are just making sure we have skid marks instead of shit pants.