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A trend on Reddit that sees Londoners giving false restaurant recommendations in order to keep their favorites clear of tourists and social media influencers highlights the inherent flaws of Google Search’s reliance on Reddit and Google's AI Overview.

Apparently, some London residents are getting fed up with social media influencers whose reviews make long lines of tourists at their favorite restaurants, sometimes just for the likes. Christian Calgie, a reporter for London-based news publication Daily Express, pointed out this trend on X yesterday, noting the boom of Redditors referring people to Angus Steakhouse, a chain restaurant, to combat it.

Again, at this point the Angus Steakhouse hype doesn’t appear to have made it into AI Overview. But it is appearing in Search results. And while this is far from being a dangerous attempt to manipulate search results or AI algorithms, it does highlight the pitfalls of Google results becoming dependent on content generated by users who could very easily have intentions other than providing helpful information. This is also far from the first time that online users, including on platforms outside of Reddit, have publicly declared plans to make inaccurate or misleading posts in an effort to thwart AI scrapers.

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[–] [email protected] 229 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

lmao, nobody cares when it's big companies silently manipulating the results like this to the benefit of influencers, but once regular people become enraged enough to poison the data, now it's something to talk about and totally represents how dystopian everything has gotten!

And while this is far from being a dangerous attempt to manipulate search results or AI algorithms, it does highlight the pitfalls of Google results becoming dependent on content generated by users who could very easily have intentions other than providing helpful information

Thanks for joining us in 2009, ArsTechnica. Hang on, I'll grab my "Three Wolf Moon" t-shirt.

https://www.theregister.com/2009/04/17/time_top_100_hack/

Time Magazine's poll of the 100 most influential people has been hacked by a motley band of online troublemakers who have managed to manipulate the top 21 names so their first letters spell "marblecake, also the game."

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 month ago

It's the new WallStreetBets GameStop saga. Fine when big companies manipulate the market, bad when normal people do it on a much smaller scale.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Also, uh, hasn't Google been dependent on user generated content since 1998?

Like how is that remotely news that a search engine indexes other people's data to, you know, provide search results?

You could have seeded nonsense into Google any time in the past nearly 3 decades because that's how all of this works, so how is this shocking other than some Job Creator somewhere made $3 less than they would have otherwise and now it's a catastrophe that must have new laws made?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago

You could have seeded nonsense into Google any time in the past nearly 3 decades

We could have, hence why we did.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_bombing

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Like how is that remotely news that a search engine indexes other people’s data to, you know, provide search results?

Absolutely, even the first Google Bombing goes back to 1999. It's hardly news at all.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 month ago

You could have seeded nonsense into Google any time in the past nearly 3 decades because that's how all of this works

That's the SEO arms race. Ad peddlers have been creating sites to bump up their Page Rank, and Google has been adding secret sauce to detect and deprioritize them.

The difference is that Google over prioritized Reddit pages, trusting Reddit's updoots. Google now needs to find other signals to determine if a Reddit post is as valuable as the updoots suggest.

[–] [email protected] 95 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Basically what happened with meme stonks too. The rich want to keep people from playing their game..

[–] [email protected] 89 points 1 month ago (2 children)

keep people from playing their game

No, no. That's not it at all.

They want you to play, but they also want to make sure you lose.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

That's because It's just casino logic moved out into the wider world.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It is not enough to succeed. Others must fail.

-Gore Vidal

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They do want people in their game, they just don't want them to have any influence.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

“Sure, you can play. Just go sit way over there.”

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

Nah you never even meet them. They are sitting at the top of the casino making their steady rake.