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[–] [email protected] 36 points 3 weeks ago (35 children)

So as someone who has never played LoL or any MoBA (or is it a DOTA?), can someone give me a run-down? Just generally toxic behavior?

[–] [email protected] 37 points 3 weeks ago (15 children)

Mobas (and team games in general) have an inherent issue where people dont like to be losing, and when they are, they usually find an outlet by blaming the rest of the team.

Its a pretty huge problem in league because

  1. Behavior problem. Riot has like never addressed the toxicity issue. They've basically said heres some banned words and thats it. People can get by either griefing in game (which has been essentially unpunished) or by typing in non bannable ways (i remember seeing someone using europe as a uhh... You know)
  2. Game design problem. League is pretty punishing when it comes to losing. You're stuck in a game you dont want to play, esp if your team holds you hostage by not surrendering intentionally. There's no fast way to get into a new game. You have to finish this, lose lp (ranked point system in league), and then possibly run into the same situation again. This isn't really riot's fault. This is just a flaw of mobas that no ones learned to really fix yet
[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (4 children)

This is just a flaw of mobas that no ones learned to really fix yet

A flaw of humanity really. But unlike Riot, Valve has and still are taking action against toxicity in DotA 2, for example with their behaviour score system.

  • Reports for toxic chat, toxic voice, and/or greifing will lower behaviour score.

  • Matchmaking considers this score, putting toxic people in matches together.

  • If a player's behaviour score is too low they will automatically be muted.

  • Typing slurs in chat lowers behaviour score, and too many will mute the player for the rest of the match.

  • On the match found pop-up, it tells you if the behaviour score is differing between the players. You can then either press confirm or queue again to find a better match.

  • At the end of a match you can dislike players, which will lessen then chance of meeting that player again. You can also press avoid on a player, making it impossible to be matched on team with that player again.

There's more to it, but that's the gist of it. Still a toxic game but at least 10 times less than LoL.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

Yea valve has been pushing for punishing bad behavior, which is good on them (I remember the coal incident). It's still a complicated task, but at least they're trying things that seem to stick rather than riot (like them trying to change certain pings to be party only which was really stupid)

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