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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Alternate ending: In life the vampire had been a logician, and thus intepreted the statement as an implied "yes"...

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

But he can't unless he's given permission. So until that happens, the answer is "no."

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (4 children)

So if the teacher had simply said, "yes," but in her head, she wasn't giving him permission, just stating that she believed he possessed the capability of entering, would he be able to enter or not?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

Better check the DM guide and roll a 12 sided dice.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

I'd say that he wouldn't. It's magic, so it can work based on intent...

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

No, the permission needs to be granted verbally and explicitly. It cannot be implied in any way.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Counterpoint: a welcome mat that says “welcome” or “come on in” can be used to circumvent such requirements.

I think it comes down to whether the limitation of entry comes from a restraint external or internal to the vampire. If there is some force that comes from people/houses that prevents the vampire from entering until consent is given, then I think you may be correct in that the permission goes as interpreted by the permission-giver. If it is a compulsion that comes from the vampire themself that they need to receive permission, then it comes down to the interpretation of permission as received by the vampire, and they would have more leeway to twist meanings to allow themselves entry.

Personally I lean toward the latter understanding as it is a simpler explanation of supernatural phenomena for such compulsions to come from the vampire’s psychology than explain some magical force acting on the vampire from the dwelling. It also makes vampires more sinister and therefore scary, which for a horror entity is good.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

It would also fit lore to be the vampire's OCD that prevents entry, they also have to count things like grains of rice or matchsticks if spilled in front of them before they can continue on.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That's kind of in the same realm as all the vampires in the world suddenly developing an aversion to crossed sticks and blessed water in 33 AD.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

And that’s exactly the sort of pedantry we’re discussing.