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Passkeys might really kill passwords (www.theverge.com)

submitted 9 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Passkeys: how do they work? No, like, seriously. It’s clear that the industry is increasingly betting on passkeys as a replacement for passwords, a way to use the internet that is both more secure and more user-friendly. But for all that upside, it’s not always clear how we, the normal human users, are supposed to use passkeys. You’re telling me it’s just a thing... that lives on my phone? What if I lose my phone? What if you steal my phone?

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Assuming you have a strong base password you aren't concerned with being broken, you can use that, followed by a unique identifier for what you're logging into, so every password is essentially the same, but also unique. Something like, translate the lyrics to a song (say without me by Eminem) to first letters and punctuations, 2tpggrto,rto,rto, and add the identifier.

2tpggrto,rto,rto-goog 2tpggrto,rto,rto-faceb

This is essentially how I manage my passwords that I want to actually remember. Just make sure you're not SUPER obvious with how you make the identifier, perhaps -g0og or -f4c3b0ok. And no, I don't use that song lol.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

This is essentially the same thing as using the same password everywhere.

Yeah, they are unique. But if one is broken, they are all essentially broken.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Only if you're specifically targeted. I know enough regex to know that nobody is going to bother trying to parse known passwords to identify patterns like that when there's a billion suckers who use 'password123' for their bank accounts.

As long as the pattern is not super predictable, and aren't dictionary words, nobody is brute forcing that.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

Even a minute mental load at everything you need to log into in a day is still more than the zero mental load I have when using a password manager.

It’s not just more secure, it’s far more convenient. Plus once you start to share a life with someone, you can share all your accounts and passwords effortlessly as well.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

These would be extremely easy to detect with regex. Just look for the service name in a password, including common leet speak conversion.

Password123-Facebook then easily becomes Password123-GitHub or Password123-Walgreens.

I can assure you, if I was a bad actor that got my hands on a password dump, I’m checking for these kinds of passwords pretty early on.

Edit: A word.