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So one of the selling points I've seen tossed around for Lemmy is it's absence of a Karma system. Keeping that in mind can anyone explain why Lemmy wouldn't adapt a more automated/bot style approach to increasing content. What I had in mind was a system that shocked Pikachu meme used some sort of scraping method or web crawler method that could produce continually fresh posts to communities like the NFL community or even offer a new News type of community that is fed every news break from a defined set of sources. Hell Lemmy even offers the ability to create its own automated front page of the internet instance that exclusively for those who enjoy the automated content provided. If it gained traction there would be no limit to the specific communities it could support. For example if there were a NFL auto posting bot why not one thst serviced each individual team's community.

The biggest ckmplaint in reddit back in the day was the increase of bot activity generating reposts. With Lemmy tho, there already are natural reposts already happening between common communities present across multiple instances.

I very much enjoy how differently Lemmy and it's user base is from the trash pile reddit became. The reddit comment threads after the exodus are all just regurgitated memes and hivemind friendly bot responses. Compared to Lemmy where it's been rare if at all to find anyone farming for karma or pandering to the masses.

This is all just second hand understanding of the digital world. Thank you in advance for anyone whontakes the time tonread this and comment🍻

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I've got bots turned off. Mostly because organic conversation can and often is stifled by bots. The lack of the karma system doesn't change that. Over-inflated posting and downvotes still abound here and people dog pile on that even though there isn't a karma system reward. They still get a dopamine hit from upvoting/downvoting, and they still get one from seeing upvotes etc. So in that realm it doesn't matter that an algorithm isn't boosting some content. Not when people can use bots to drown out other people or whole discussions.

People have posited this idea before. The community generally doesn't seem to like this idea.

https://lemmy.eus/post/176580

https://lemmy.world/post/201879

https://lemmy.ml/post/3716169

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So if you notice the user push back from the oldest of the three posts to the newest definitely quieted down in the newest post. Also as multiple people and myself suggested is to allocate all the automation to itsnown accessible instance that users can pull from or block themselves same as it is now.

As for the issue with bot comments, I'm not suggesting to change anything thst would cause Lemmy to allow bot users comments. I 100% agree that would be the worst.

What I would most like to see is a solution to bring more content to the more niche communities that are obviously struggling to keep relevancy due to the low volume of active users not providing enough content in their own to keep these niche communities active.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

How do you plan to prevent bot user comments? I think that's an important part of how this goes. Several users (including myself) have had hit and miss success with blocking instances. Block evasion is absolutely a thing here with users too. I really do want to understand what the plan is for implementation, if the communities and instances are going to be warned, and if this instance will have admins and moderators and most importantly tools to combat some of the problems I foresee from this.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I dont know how they do it now but I assume there is something because I have oy seen a couple bot responses but they've were on point and not spam.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

An assumption isn't good enough. If you want to implement this you'll need a plan. It won't be successful unless the community interacts with it.