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None of those policies sound particularly far away from what Biden/Harris have done / want to do. Student/medical debt cancellation being the obvious one. Job growth under Biden being another. Harris has also recently spoken in favor of unions/collective bargaining as of late. Harris also co-sponsored Bernie's Medicare for all.
Is Stein to the Left of Harris? Sure. Is she far to the Left of Harris? No.
The fact is, the ideological gap between Harris and Stein is way smaller than the one between Harris and Trump.
But you want to disingenuously paint Harris and Trump as virtually identical because of a single foreign policy issue that you lot can pretend to clutch your pearls over and virtue signal about until your lungs give out.
They have no plans to cancel all debt. I don't consider ticky-tacky piecemeal debt """forgiveness""" to be anything like full debt abolition.
Not growth, literally a jobs guarantee. That means full employment, which is nothing like Biden/Harris focusing on private economic growth.
They broke the railroad strike, and Biden is to the left of Harris on unions anyway.
She's abandoned it.
She's doing genocide and promises to do more, she's promising to put Republicans in her administration, she's a cop.
Right of center at best.
Now imagine being so ignorant as to not see how a similar comparison on policy between Harris and Trump would put Harris far to the Left of Trump.
I already acknowledged she's slightly to the left of Trump. That doesn't change the fact that "closer" is doing a lot of work.
A pile of shit is closer to food than a rock. Would you eat it?
Again, to say Stein is far to the Left of Harris, but Harris is only slightly to the Left of Trump is ignorant at best, disingenuous at worst.
Did even you read my responses to your specific examples? I think I demonstrated pretty handily that Harris is center-right.
She's not for Medicare for All, she's not for universal debt abolition, she's not for a jobs guarantee, she's willing to break strikes for the sake of the capitalist economy, and most importantly she's a militaristic freak that wants to further increase funding for the military and give unlimited support to Israel as it does genocide and drags us into WW3
She's a 2000s era Republican.
Which has nothing to do with whether Harris is further left from Trump than she is right of Stein.
Trump and Harris agree on militarizing the border, on increasing funding to the military, on unlimited support for Israel's genocide, on support for police, on increasing fracking and oil drilling and on building pipelines, I could go on.
Trump is certainly farther to the right on a lot of issues, but they actually have broad agreement on a lot of issues too.
Hitler-lite vs Hitler-delux.
Okay tankie
Whatever dronie. 🙄
Sorry, tankie-lite
When Trump steals the election you'll be out in the streets with me anyway to oppose his regime, why do you insist on making enemies?
When Trump wins the election it'll be because your rhetoric pushed people not to vote in a way that prevents him from winning.
If he wins it'll be because of voter suppression and electioneering in states like Georgia, as well as the Democrats betraying Palestinian-Americans and demanding they vote for their own familis to die. You are wasting your time being mad at people that have no power.
You have real enemies.
There's that good ol' fashioned tankie-lite virtue-signaling deflection.