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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Is liberal supposed to have a negative connotation?

Liberalism is a political and moral philosophy based on the rights of the individual, liberty, consent of the governed, political equality, right to private property and equality before the law.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Read David Graeber: https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/david-graeber-the-utopia-of-rules

The Iron Law of Liberalism states that any market reform, any government initiative intended to reduce red tape and promote market forces will have the ultimate effect of increasing the total number of regulations, the total amount of paperwork, and the total number of bureaucrats the government employs.

History reveals that political policies that favor “the market” have always meant even more people in offices to administer things, but it also reveals that they also mean an increase of the range and density of social relations that are ultimately regulated by the threat of violence. This obviously flies in the face of everything we’ve been taught to believe about the market, but if you observe what actually happens, it’s clearly true. The bureaucratization of daily life means the imposition of impersonal rules and regulations; impersonal rules and regulations, in turn, can only operate if they are backed up by the threat of force. And indeed, in this most recent phase of total bureaucratization, we’ve seen security cameras, police scooters, issuers of temporary ID cards, and men and women in a variety of uniforms acting in either public or private capacities, trained in tactics of menacing, intimidating, and ultimately deploying physical violence, appear just about everywhere—even in places such as playgrounds, primary schools, college campuses, hospitals, libraries, parks, or beach resorts, where fifty years ago their presence would have been considered scandalous, or simply weird.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I used to hold the same belief and considered myself a proponent of limited governance. However, the individuals I know that advocated for smaller government did so because they preferred to be governed by the church instead.

I don't believe that labeling others as liberal or conservative helps anything.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

Conservatives are also liberal, and I'm not interested in helping any government they're considered a valid part of. In a sane world they'd be trying every living president at The Hague.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

To those who don’t know what words mean, yea.