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A bombshell filing out of Donald Trump’s election subversion case was unsealed Wednesday, revealing a trove of damning allegations about how the former president acted on and around Jan. 6, 2021. 

Among the nastiest accusations in the 165-page document was how Trump allegedly reacted to learning from an aide that his vice president, Mike Pence, had been taken to a secure location in the U.S. Capitol for his safety. 

Trump’s alleged response to that news: “So what?”


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[–] [email protected] 57 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Imagine being JD Vance, looking at all of the people smarter and more experienced than him with their shattered careers after working for Trump, and thinking "But I'm the one who will figure out how to ride this tiger to my own advantage!"

Rudy Giuliani went from being "America's mayor" to being an absolute fucking laughingstock, a man so generally reviled that he couldn't sustain an appearance on The Masked Singer.

Anyone, literally anyone at any level, at this point who thinks that Trump won't throw them under the bus at his earliest convenience is just actively seeking their own destruction.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

All the people in Trump's circle at this point are doing an all-or-nothing gambit hoping that they can seize power if Trump dies or is sent to prison.

Either their career ends in humiliation and shame or they get elevated to the highest office in the land without having to spend the money for it. Some might see that as a good gamble.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

what?! the guy who bankrupted a casino for short-term real estate gains? not a trustworthy partner? how could it be?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Quick correction: he bankrupted multiple casinos, at least some of which were fronts for Russian money laundering.

e: formatting

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 months ago (3 children)

It's probably the best chance Vance has at the presidency. Roughly 50/50 that Trump wins, and I'd say there is about an 80% chance that Trump dies in office or gets 25th'd after a stroke. Those are pretty tempting odds to get in the presidency. Vance doesn't have enough pull with hate groups to get the Republicans nomination.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

Roughly 50/50 that Trump wins,

Don't you put that evil on us Ricky Bobby

I'd say there is about an 80% chance that Trump dies in office

Honestly I'd say it's that likely he dies on golf course

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

My guess is that's the plan all along. When Trump said he'll be a dictator "but only on day one", he meant Vance would be a dictator going forward.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

Man I didn’t even think about that and I’m now I’m even more upset, anxious, and worried

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Vance is like the bizarro LBJ. Johnson's sole goal in life was to become President but he had absolutely no shot at it because he only had pull with hate groups (the racist South). Without question, he only got into the Oval Office because of a bullet to Kennedy's head. Kind of amazing that in 2024 locking up the hate group vote is enough to get not only the Republican nomination but also the Presidency.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago

To them, hate has been rebranded (or not depending on which political historian you talk to) as American tradition.

I don't hate gays, but it goes against American tradition.

I don't hate black people, but CRT poisons kids against American tradition.

I don't hate immigrants, but they bring their own culture instead of accepting American tradition.

Those are all sentiments I've heard from the (not quite as insane) right. It's horseblinders that let them march to the conservative drum, without seeing the neonazis and klansmen next to them.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Classic leopards ate my face dilemma

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

It's hard to value a face when you're so used to having two of them.