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Honestly, that was a solid debate from both candidates. They both did a good job dancing around direct answers. They both could throw and take jabs. The humbleness and relatability of both candidates was a breath of fresh air. I think they both did a good job trying to sway anyone on the fence, and overall, I think this benefits the Republican Party most. Vance is just a much more personable person than Trump. Democrats are really going to need to turn up if they want to win this election. I really think productive right-specific voters are going to show up from both sides and determine it.
Here's to hoping personal autonomy wins out. Govement rules over ones personal body is a slippery slope. Allowing one to choose, that's freedom.
Saying Vance is personable kind of confuses me. Its like saying Trump is charismatic. No!? But I can see Vance chilling at a cookout while Trump is hiding in his office like the beginning of the Godfather.
charisma /kə-rĭz′mə/ noun A rare personal quality attributed to leaders who arouse fervent popular devotion and enthusiasm.
Trump absolutely has charisma. Outside of being a lying narcissist, its literally his defining trait.
And vance, in comparison to trump, is much more personable. That was on display. Vance is still a weasely amoral couch fucker, but if i was absolutely forced to be in a room with one or the other, i would pick vance over trump every time.
I appreciate the extra clarification on pronunciation, but charisma also means likeable and having a magnetic personality, not just being a wannabe despotic populist leader. Vance has a chance at the former until he starts talking.
Dude, its called context. The usage implied was very clear.
And my bad, i guess i left out the little "1" at the start that says my definition was the primary usage to support my argument, but whatever... it seemed obvious.
Despite that, even by your narrower definition, trump still has charisma. just not the kind that works on you. People can be likable and have a magnetic personality and whatever else, and you can still despise them. They would still be called charismatic. The people waving his signs, attending his rallys, and wearing his red hats would certainly say he is likable and has a magnetic personality. Are they wrong? No. The sheer number of his followers prove he has charisma. Clap yourself on the back for not falling for that particular style of charisma if you want, but dont deny it exists.
Cool. Fuck the nazis.
My take away is the same. That was more of a "debate" than we have had in literal years.
I think walz did good. He held his ground and had some very solid jabs. He knows his roll as second man and backup and played it well.
Vance... did suprisingly well, and will definately be a threat in the future, based on his debate skills at least. This is practice for him regardless of how the election turns out. Experience is what he lacks, and the national stage will hone him over the next few years.
All in all, ill say no clear winner for the debate on face value. It was a show for the sake of the show. But ill absolutely be paying attention in the coming years. One scandal can sink vance, and if past gop tendancies are anything, there will be one. Walz is fairly bulletproof in that regard.
That was a good effort from both sides tbh.