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For those confused, it's a British politician, not American. The tories spent far too long in power trying to cripple the NHS, without being too blatant about it. They wanted to introduce a more American style system. Unfortunately for them, a lot of the NHS staff wouldn't play ball. It's been hell on the actual staff, but the NHS refused to break.
“From each according to his ability, to each according to his need”
To be fair it's an easy mistake to make, our (American) for-profit healthcare industrial complex is a nightmare. One that certain politicians in the UK, Canada, and I'm sure plenty of others would love to emulate so they can get richer - because barely disguised greed knows not race, religion, creed, border, or time.
That's something they'll be able to tell their children and grandchildren with pride.
I think it's awesome somebody said no. I'm buried to my neck in medical debt and will probably never own a house because of it. Shit I'll probably never get out of low-income housing. Oh well, that's the price I pay for freedom and democracy I guess. /s
American healthcare is so expensive for those with no or minimal insurance, postpone using hospitals and doctors until a last resort. The predictable result is that when patients finally have to use those services, their problem is often advanced, harder to heal and much more expensive. Our health outcomes are at the bottom of the industrial nations.
The NHS has been broken for some time thanks to repeated budget cuts and privatization of core functions.
Is labour fixing it or are they just neoliberal fucks too?
Strarmer is extremely Neoliberal and corrupt as hell to boot.
Under Corbyn or Rebecca Long-Bailey maybe you'd get different results. But he's pledged himself to bring Tory policy the Labour government, so that's what Brits are going to get.
It's been beaten bloody, but is still holding together. It's definitely in crisis though.
American here. Who or what is (a) torie?
The tories are the conservative party. They are our right-wing, mainstream party. Politically, they are closer to the Democrats than republicans, but that's mostly because America is so extreme right wing compared to most of Europe.
A few years ago, they took a lurch to the right, as well as purging a lot of the less extreme and/or intelligent members. Thankfully, they got throughly bitchslaped out of power recently. We are now into the cleanup phase of their damage (including brexit).
We use "Tory/Tories" like you'd use "Yankee"/"Dixie" or "GOP" - it's a nickname. Like the Democrats, the left-leaning major party (Labour) doesn't have a nickname.
A member of the conservative party. Their rough equivalent to our Republican party
Fwiw, Americans hate the “American style health care” with a smoldering, intense passion. We are ruled by ignorant clowns and rich bullies.
If only we could get to an NHS style healthcare.
Can you tell that to the Americans around me?
Sadly, no one can. Propaganda - a giant bus with a lie printed on it, for example - is extremely powerful and effective.
It's well worth fighting for. We pay less than half what Americans pay for better service.
My daughter was born in an nhs hospital, and had complications, they were in for over a week. The biggest expense was snacks (I might have been a bit stressed and feeling helpless). Even parking was cheap.
Yeah. We look at that in wide-eyed wonder. It’s like a dream.
It was a dream in the UK too... until it wasn't.