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This is probably the only thing that will wake the MAGA diehards up. There are a lot of vile people that will vote for anyone who promises to, "own the libs," but the real Trump true believers have built an entire mythology around this Epstien/QAnon/Deep State bullshit. They're not going to accept, "Oh, nm, it was a suicide and there are no tapes or lists, my bad," as an answer. Couple this with the even sharper decline in their standard of living that's coming soon and they might actually turn on him.
Facts don’t wake up MAGA diehards. Feelings will.
Right now, they’re in the cult through tribal mentality and loneliness. Imagine if a moral compass suddenly asked you to boycott “Every website ever made”. Even if that imperative was fact-based, many couldn’t do it.
Not discounting the part where they’re insanely evil, but many are afraid to face reality at this point.
I don't think that it's facts that will wake them up, I think it's that Trump is moving to end the delusion. You can explain how child abduction isn't nearly as prevalent as they think it is, you can debunk their Wayfair child-trafficking conspiracy, you can prove that Comet Ping-Pong doesn't have a basement, and they will ignore those facts. They'll tell you it's deep-state propaganda to stop Trump. But if Trump tells them there's no deep-state and that they've wasted the last decade on a LARP? That's not gonna go over well.
And again, this is for the true-believers; some of them are vile, some of them are misguided, a lot of them are somewhere in between, but in the end, they all believe in the deep-state, human-trafficking, satanic-panic bullshit. There are plenty of Trump supporters who are just cruel little goblins who want Trump to hurt people, and they're not gonna give a shit about this.