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In a first, an American woman used a suicide pod to take her own life. The process took place in Switzerland. It's done by pumping in only nitrogen gas, so the person will lose goes dizzy, loses consciousness and eventually dies. Enter futurama memes.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

It's also a way for an ableist and ageist society to drive vulnerable people to take matters in to our own hands, instead of "forcing" it to act more directly (as opposed to "only" slightly less directly systemically financially and socially oppressing and excluding us), in a kind of "guilt free" eugenics.

Should people have the right to die, and are there some situations where self euthanasia would be the best way to go? Sure. But lets not pretend that sick, disabled, and or old people have nothing to give and are suffering simply for existing as such, and not because society does very little to accommodate, integrate or even accept us. Capitalism frames us as lazy burdens on the system, and if/once we can't contribute to the machine, we (and you, if you become ill, have an accident, or just age) get violently tossed to the margins, our lives made impossible to survive without pain and trauma external to our condition/s.

From what I can find, this capsule costs $20 to use, while existing as an old and or disabled person can cost hundreds to tens of thousands more a year. Making society accessible and inclusive would require a lot of work from people who don't want or care to do it, providing us with this "out" gives them their own.

Be very wary of promoting this as a good solution to people's suffering without taking in to account just how much of that suffering is created by society and it's refusal to be inclusive.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

I know you mean well, but you don't provide solutions of any kind. Simply saying the equivalent of "we should be better to fellow humans" isn't going to change the world. It's a platitude.

How do you propose we help the people currently suffering? We just let them suffer until society figures out how to help them? Unite arms and block suicide machines because "they are an easy way out and we should be helping them instead"? Sure, you're absolutely right, we should be helping them all now, but that's not how change works. It's not immediate. While we figure this stuff out, a bunch of people are going to suffer and die painfully.

Also, even if the cynical ending is "the government promotes suicide to get rid of the weak", I'd argue it's better than suffering until death.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You're right that there's too much unnecessary suffering imposed by our societal system. Still, consider that everyone's life eventually ends, and for many when that time comes it would be a blessing to choose it on their own terms.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Should people have the right to die, and are there some situations where self euthanasia would be the best way to go? Sure.

I very literally did consider it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

I hear you expressing a lot of pain and frustration with the way society treats people who are elderly or disabled. And you're right, the first answer shouldn't be "kill yourself". While your comment briefly mentioned the right to die, you called this method as ableist, which I think is probably an extension of that frustration rather than factual. Reading the article it seemed to me this organization is very much interested in people's well being and reducing their suffering in a holistic way.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

Yet you still came out eith the heartless WRONG answer. Curious.