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‘Morally indefensible’ – but George W Bush will not come out against Trump
(www.theguardian.com)
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Ex-Presidents don't endorse future politicians. They step aside for new leadership.
You just write down whatever you make up in your head as if it were a fact, or what?
I've studied political science, economics, and history for ten years. Most don't have the time and resources. My mistake was engaging the echo chamber with something so complicated.
And the proof several others posted about former presidents endorsing candidates, including George W. Bush doesn't mean anything because you are the authority here?
Maybe presidents shouldn't endorse, but not everything is as it should, because you said so. And just because it shouldn't you can't just say it isn't, as if it were a fact.
Reagan changed many paradigms for the worse. I'd bet the majority here couldn't name his predecessor without looking it up, let alone the legislative majorities and legislation.
I'm going to go do something more productive.
Yeah, man. This crowd doesn't really care about the point you were trying to make. Lemmy just wants to vote their feelings.
Don't sweat it.
Your lack of care (and history of shallow reasoning and arrogance) is why everything increasingly sucks.
This crowd isn't representative of Lemmy whole.
A. I was commiserating with you.
B. Not sure where you are coming from with that weird judgment about my shallow reasoning and arrogance, lol.
C. Cheers mate. Maybe you should take a break.
insert Skinner meme here
"It must be everyone else that's wrong."
It's not actually that complicated. Every living former president, including the one the article is about, has made endorsements either in this or a previous election.
Obama and Biden? And Harris?
Bush endorsed Romney in 2012.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/george-w-bush-endorses-mitt-romney/2012/05/15/gIQAZXLMSU_story.html
Bush also endorsed McCain in 2008
https://www.reuters.com/article/world/us-politics/bush-endorses-mccain-for-presidency-idUSWAT009073/
He also endorsed a bunch of non-presidential political candidates.
Yeah, the dignity of the office took quite a nose dive at Reagan.
Yet 4 former presidents endorsed Harris. So what are you on about?
They're wrong to do so. It's an old tradition intended to ensure peaceful transfer of power and avoid hegemony. They disrespect the office.
A tradition like president candidates releasing tax returns or presidents making White House visitor logs public or staying out of justice department actions or not personally profiting off the presidency or...
Yes. Much of the precedent that constitutes a "good" President was established by the actions of Washington and Adams.
Username checks out
An endorsement disrespects the office, but Trump shitting all over the office, and every citizen isn't. Yeah you can fuck right off with your disingenuous bullshit.
I expect and deserve better. It's not a popular perspective here, where all have settled for "not Trump". I'll leave you to your less than mediocre whatever.
Can't not read that in Comic Book Guy's voice.
Ironic. And the third-party candidates aren't?
Sure, go ahead and try to execute the VP, overturn election results, completely stonewall judicial appointments, but actually calling out a traitor is a bridge too far.
Because Trump is a pig, all the rest should roll in the mud also? That doesn't seem wise.