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[–] [email protected] 89 points 1 month ago (7 children)

Audacity was the first one I thought of.

Or MultiMC, PolyMC, the Sodium mod, or the original Minecraft Forge.

(Minecraft community devs need to stop having drama lmao)

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

what happened with the original Minecraft Forge?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

The dev who owned the branding for forge (LexManos) is infamously abrasive and rude to others to the point where the forge community was slowly falling apart because new people didn't want to be involved with him. The rest of the team decided to rebrand to NeoForge and continue without him.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Lol, I mean it's better to have a brief period of drama than permanently put up with the bad management. Although Sodium is an exception to that, I think the people working on it are the right people.

I'm conflicted on the license change, though. I don't know if it makes sense or not.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

That's definitely true but at the same time why do people have to cause fights in the first place, they're all part of a community for a game they enjoy playing :(

I also agree with you on the sodium license change, it's definitely the most reasonable of the ones I listed since the dev seemed to be getting maintainer burn-out and had some bad experiences with other people in the MC modding community. I don't really like the idea of it not being OSS though because the key strength of that is not being tied to a single maintainer or group.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What happened to the Sodium mod?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The lead developer changed the license to a much less permissive one because of drama surrounding being credited in modpacks. The dev thinks there are forks that exist solely to sidestep crediting the original mod, I'm not up to date enough on Minecraft modding lore to know if this is true or not.

I'm pretty sure there's also a fork that branches off of the last GPL commit but I forget what it's called.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Doesn't GPL technically require you to attribute the upstream anyway?

The work must carry prominent notices stating that you modified it, and giving a relevant date.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Most open sorce licenses do, not just the GPL. I'm not sure what Minecraft modpackers do. But in the free and open source world, you'll always find that attribution. Sometimes they have a list who wrote the software and who maintained it for what timespan.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Modpacks still have attribution but they likely have attribution to the fork. The fork will have attribution in the source code somewhere but most MC players aren't likely to actually look at the GitHub repo, so they'll only see the fork's name.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Ah okay. I wouldn't know. I played Minetest instead of Minecraft. And the community there seems to be nice albeit a bit small. I learned a bit of Lua and contributed some smaller fixes to some mods. But I guess the gaming and modding community for propriety games is a bit different than the open source community.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Wait, what happened to Multi MC? I still use it whenever the want to play modded Minecraft returns

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I actually had to look it up as I couldn't remember why I made the first switch. PolyMC was forked from MultiMC after they dropped third-party modpack support. Then there was some drama with one of the devs of PolyMC, spawning Prism Launcher

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I really don't understand why PolyMC forked... Multi MC still has several third party mod packs available

[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Wait, what happened to Audacity?

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I believe they were bought by someone and eventually implemented some questionable practices. I don't remember the exact details, maybe someone else does.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

I remember reading an update which said that the company went back on most (or all?) the negative changes and it's ok to use again.

I didn't confirm it myself, but that's part of why the alternatives aren't seeing as much development now

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago

It was opt-out telemetry IIRC

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Wasnt it something about data collection?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It was, the company that bought out Audacity added a bunch of telemetry to it

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

AFAIK everything was dropped in the end, and people went back to using audacity

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I have used this as a drop-in replacement, with no complaints.

https://codeberg.org/tenacityteam/tenacity

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

You've got to love the open-source community! If only the whole world worked like that.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 month ago

I love how well the PolyMC -> PrismLauncher transition went. It’s great that the asshole owning it didn’t just spew transphobic hate, but also removed the contribution rights to all other people, leading them to immediately flock to an alternative.