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1 in 75? That math seems pretty off.
40,000 fatalities would be a sample size of 3 million. The USA is 335 million, 110x larger.
1 in 8,250 is more like it.
Lifetime vs annual.
You have a 100% chance of your life ending in death. That doesn't mean it'll happen this year.
Try thinking about the math a little differently. Instead using a by mile approach I get a similar result.
Article math seems fuzzy for sure. I wondered if they were measuring for a lifetime of time. Even if that were true, it still feels off.
https://crashstats.nhtsa.dot.gov/Api/Public/ViewPublication/813561#:~:text=U.S.%20Department%20of%20Transportation,the%20second%20quarter%20of%202022.
12.8 per 100,000. That's way less than 1 in 75.
Yeah the number seems way off to me too.
In 2022, there were 42,795 total motor vehicle fatalities.
That would be 1 in 75 if the population was 3,225,000.
The USA is well over 300 million.
You’re right about it being 100x more
You're conflating two separate things.
It's not 1:75, of all living people, for that year.
It's 1:75 of people who die in the US, are killed by cars.
In any given year, if 40K die from cars, 3M people will have died some other way, that year.
If calculated over lifetime, this number becomes closer to 1 in 75: This year one has the 'chance' or risk of 42000/335000000=12.5/100000 to be killed by a car. But one has this risk every year of the ~80 years one lives, thus the life time risk for the average person is about 1 %. Maybe the data is 'cleaned' for road death and people living close to agglomerations, where one encounters traffic jams, and thus the number is slightly higher, 1/75.
That’s not how you extrapolate lifetime likelihood. Your calculations assume a static population, which isn’t even close to the case. Hell, simple common sense should inform you that the likelihood of death resulting from an automobile accident is less than 1 in 100.
Car brainwashing is not the same thing as common sense.
Feel free to enlighten us with your knowledge beside common sense.
The NSC says in 2022, the life time risk of dying by car accident was 1/93, which isn't that far off to my naive estimate. https://injuryfacts.nsc.org/all-injuries/preventable-death-overview/odds-of-dying/