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Trump isn’t an icon of positive masculinity. He also did very little for young men during his four years as president

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Dude I didn't prove shit. I don't understand how saying "men and boys need help" is a critique of feminism.

I know a lot of people are suggesting to address these things through "feminism" and that these problems belong to the "patriarchy". But fundamentally what they mean is use a leftist approach to deal with obstacles affecting you caused by the existing hierarchy.

They're saying that because what no one wants is another alpha male Jordan Peterson/Enon Musk style bullshit peddler claiming that men have been harmed by feminism and will be better off if we just restore the patriarchy and become "alpha" or whatever lingo they're using these days. That might be superficially true, but oppressing others isn't the way to get ahead.

It's starting to become obvious which side you're learning on, but hopefully you'll come over and help fight for men and boys issues in a way that improves society instead of harming it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I didn’t prove shit either. I think we’re on the same page.

If men have been harmed by feminism I think as men and as advocates for men and boys we would need to listen to the hypothesis and then look at it and try to solve the problem rather than worry about whose fault it is, whoever’s fault it is is less important in my opinion than trying to understand if there is a problem which seems to be true and then to go on and try to identify the problem and find the cause.

I don’t believe that many phrases that are helpful to feminist arguments and causes for women and girls that genuinely help them are as helpful when we are specifically talking about helping men and boys.

Yes, patriarchy of the 1% is probably not the best phrase.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You keep saying "men have been harmed by feminism" and I couldn't agree with you less.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Oh well I guess, lol. Good luck to you