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We also want to be clear in our belief that the categorical condemnation of Artificial Intelligence has classist and ableist undertones, and that questions around the use of AI tie to questions around privilege."

  • Classism. Not all writers have the financial ability to hire humans to help at certain phases of their writing. For some writers, the decision to use AI is a practical, not an ideological, one. The financial ability to engage a human for feedback and review assumes a level of privilege that not all community members possess.
  • Ableism. Not all brains have same abilities and not all writers function at the same level of education or proficiency in the language in which they are writing. Some brains and ability levels require outside help or accommodations to achieve certain goals. The notion that all writers “should“ be able to perform certain functions independently or is a position that we disagree with wholeheartedly. There is a wealth of reasons why individuals can't "see" the issues in their writing without help.
  • General Access Issues. All of these considerations exist within a larger system in which writers don't always have equal access to resources along the chain. For example, underrepresented minorities are less likely to be offered traditional publishing contracts, which places some, by default, into the indie author space, which inequitably creates upfront cost burdens that authors who do not suffer from systemic discrimination may have to incur.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

People who hire writers, don't write their own words. You can say that human connection is a crucial part of the writing process. But I just honestly don't think that's true for the vast majority of things we write. But also, eventually AI will be indistinguishable, If not better, than a human writer.

When we hit AGI, if we can continue to keep open source models, it will truly take the power of the rich and put it in the hands of the common person. The reason the rich are so powerful is they can pay other people to do things. Most people only have the power to do what they can physically do in the world, But the rich can multiply that effort by however many people they can afford.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

When we hit AGI, if we can continue to keep open source models, it will truly take the power of the rich and put it in the hands of the common person.

Setting aside the “and then a miracle occurs” bit, this basically seems to be “rich people get to have servants and slaves… what if we democratised that?”. Maybe AGI will invent a new kind of ethics for us.

But the rich can multiply that effort by however many people they can afford.

If the hardware to train and run what currently passes for AI was cheap and trivially replicable, Jensen Huang wouldn’t be out there signing boobs.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

when my dick grows wings, it will truly therefore be a magical flying unicorn pony

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Do you not think AGI is possible?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

A Guy in India is not only possible, but the secret sauce behind so many AI companies!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Howdy, alt-account here. You wouldn't have banned me and THEN replied to this thread to get the last word would you?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You're saying he's decided to go on a banning spree? Fair enough. If my views don't fit the community y'all are building, I get it. But to reply a rebuttal after the fact is a little cringe. Let the downvotes and other members speak for themselves.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

no, you troglodyte

it isn't a banning spree. this isn't some "oh whoops you got caught in the net" shit.

it's just a pretty fucking direct way to portray that your shitty posts and the shitty viewpoint that drives them just ain't welcome here, bub

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

and the fact that you fucking walked back in with an alt, outright calling that you did it, and then try to "politely" debatelord it

I mean, 3 points. I'll score that 3 points. brave.

but the chance of it working? buh-bye now.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

Totally understand that y'all don't want my view point here, that's fair. No debate on that. I understand I wasn't mistakenly caught in some net.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

A Good Inkwell is definitely possible, I even possess one!