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[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

No one wants to be challenged on their personal choices.

Yet that is what every vegan does to carnists, in many cases very viciously. I am NOT going up to vegans and telling them to stop being vegan, nor am I judging them for their dietary choices. I ask them questions like 'What would be your plans for all the current living domesticated animals in the hypothetical situation where eating meat is outlawed?' and they flip their shit on a regular basis. I go out of my way to present everything I ask as neutral as possible but all my effort has never once mattered.

illing animals isn’t something the animal wants.

I think you are attributing human qualities to nonhuman consciousnesses. There's a lot of evidence that the concept of death doesn't even exist in most animal minds, as well as the fact that animals in the wild suffer FAR more disease, discomfort, illness and death than domesticated and cared for livestock.

"debatist"

That isn't even a real word... I'm sorry I can't take you seriously anymore.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Every vegan

Factually incorrect and anecdotal

the concept of death doesn't even exist in most animal minds

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8602129/

Good read, though anyone that's seen a pet mourn their owner or their friend knows that's not true already.

can't take you seriously anymore

It's a portmanteau of debater and statist. Frankly, I don't care what you think about me. You're clearly biased beyond any reason as to the motives of others, to the point of making false blanket statements about entire groups. Any time someone says "all _____ are _____," there is a problem and they should be questioned. Did the vegans you approach solicit your question? If they did not, then mind your own business. If they did, and "flip their shit," (X to doubt on the reliability of this narrator) then that one person had an issue. The sheer fact that you can easily find very chill vegans online or irl without much effort means you're a statistical anomaly, an asshole, or misrepresenting the truth.