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She's a former prosecutor. He's a compulsive liar, misogynist and racist former reality TV star with dementia who isn't used to being told to wait his turn before he can speak.
He better pray to every god he can come up with.
And together they fight grime?
Sounds like the premise to a zany sitcom
While that's all true, they're functionally tied. Think about that.
Yeah but she has the edge in that "tie" and she has all the momentum
I wouldn't bet your ovaries on it.
A large percentage of the United States are really really fucking stupid. It's alarming.
Harris didn't do well in 2020 (edit: 2019) though. She was very uncharismatic. To her credit, she seems to have worked on that a lot since then.
She's also the nominee with all the DNC money and backing. She will have the best consultants, advisors, resources, etc, and she strikes me as the sort of person who listens to constructive feedback. In the primary, she was working against a lot of the best people in the Democratic party. She now has everyone behind her pushing forward, which is entirely different from trying to pull out ahead of a pack.
In the primary, she was on stage with Biden and Bernie and Warren and Klobuchar and Buttigieg and Yang and Beto and Booker and Castro and Gabbard and at least three other people nobody remembers. Some of those people are better speakers, some are better debaters, some have better records, some are better leaders, some have better ideas, and almost all of them are not entirely batshit insane.
She now only has to debate Donald Trump. She is a better speaker, better debater, better leader, has a better record, has better ideas, and will be the only candidate on stage who isn't entirely batshit insane. She will also be the only candidate on stage that isn't a racist. The only one who isn't a convicted felon. The only one who isn't a rapist. The only candidate who didn't incite an assault on the Capitol building to stop an election. The only candidate who isn't misogynist. The only candidate who hasn't sold state secrets to an enemy government. The only candidate who hasn't committed a felony at Arlington National Cemetery.
Plus she likes dogs.
I would say her general demeanor, her presentation style, if you compare her to 2020, she has clearly gotten better at speaking and energizing a crowd. She seems more polished, more self-aware. I don't know if she was leaning towards Shapiro, but if rumors are to be believed, she listened to feedback from progressives and chose Walz. Plus, y'know, she's a rational adult who isn't a malignant narcissist or raging egomaniac.
I wouldn’t say Trump has much charisma left either.
Yeah but he has a cult behind him who takes every one of his words as gospel
He needs more than them to win.
Don't worry all the "leftists" on lemmy are working overtime to get him elected as well
Not really. EC path is still a toss up right now.
I agree, plus people are generally tired of him. He rode a transient wave in 2016 but things are different now.
Trump came very close to winning in 2020. Progress is good, but we have a very long way to go, and an alarming number of Americans who still support him.
Only because of the EC. He got massacred in the popular.
So? The popular doesn't matter.
I think the point is that any candidate would come close because of the EC. You could put a red hat on George of the Jungle and he'd come close.
Geoege of the jungle would be infinitely better than Trump.
No argument here
People developing some real blinkered views of the trustworthiness of prosecutors, all of a sudden. John Corbyn, Greg Abbott, and Ken Paxton are all current/former AGs and they lie like it's breathing.
It's about being able to form cogent arguments and rebuttals while publicly speaking. It has nothing to do with trustworthiness.
I keep asking you this and you keep refusing to answer, but I'll ask you again: Who should Americans vote for president in November?
This isn't Lincoln-Douglas at the Harvard Yacht Club. People aren't tuning in to make up their minds.
Modern presidential debates are just nationally syndicated The Dozens. People tune in to heckle the people they hate and cheer the ones they love.
Past that, which debate in Harris's last nine years on the national stage made her look cogent? She's been at this since 2015. Her claim to fame right now is "You didn't just fall out of a coconut tree" followed by nervous laughter.
I'm being told it all rides on this next televised shouting match, so I guess we'll have to watch the debate to find out.
I didn't ask who will they vote for.
I asked who should they vote for.
Who should Americans vote for in November? In your personal opinion.
Isn't that what the debate is supposed to answer? If you go into the debate already having made up your mind, why watch?
I must remain undecided until I have heard both candidates fully advance their respective cases.
Type faster comrade otherwise you’re on a bus to Kursk! 🌻🌻
You are an imbecile
You are being highly dishonest now. You know exactly where both Trump and Harris stand on issues. Don't suddenly pretend you're politically naive.
There is a stark difference between the two candidates. Why can't you just say who people should vote for?
But if you really want to play this game, do you pledge to tell me who you believe people should vote for when the debate is over?
Dude. You're getting trolled like a bridge. Just stop engaging.
Then why do we care about the results of the debate? You want to see Brat Girl Kamala deliver Epic Owns on Trump because... it makes you feel good? Or because you think it will actually win over voters?
There's certainly a stark difference in their marketing.
I'm saving my decision for Voting Day. Last month Kamala wasn't even at the top of the ticket. How can I tell you who I'm going to vote for when Demolition Ranch has millions of subscribers and Trump is still doing public speaking events?
You are such a liar.
You watch the polls swing in the wind, yet you refuse to believe an undecided voter exists.
I'll tell you this much, I wasn't going to touch Joe Biden.
Oh no, I absolutely believe undecided voters exist.
I do not believe you are one of them.
Anyone can look at your comment history and see which of the two you clearly favor. Why can't you just be honest about it?
That explains why you're openly hostile to any kind of discussion. You've built up a stereotype and now you're angry when you meet someone who doesn't conform to it.
That's going to be a big drag on you as you work to GOTV.
Troll confirmed lol
True, I have built up the "stereotype" that you are not an ignorant person when it comes to politics.
They're saying that speaking in a formal setting to convince people of stuff was literally her whole deal for 90% of her career, not that she won't lie.
Trustworthiness is not even slightly what people mean by that. What they're talking about is her having exceptional debating skills because that's what you do in a courtroom.
Oh thank goodness. I love a debator that isn't trustworthy