Cross-posted from "TRUE communism!" by @[email protected] in [email protected]
this post was submitted on 02 Jul 2025
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I'm not entirely sure what you're trying to say in the first part
The literal entire argument is that Russian life didn't improve enough under the USSR as compared to a fictional anarchist alternative, such that communists are indistinguishable from fascists. That is the entire crux of the argument in this 400+ comment section. If it's a low bar, then how come no non-communist third world country ever had even close to that kind of explosive increase in life expectancy and quality?
I don't understand what you don't understand. You brought up Texas incarceration and death rates, and their contemporary characterization as horrific, and then compared them to USSR imprisonment rates as some kind of gotcha that the communists were unusally inhumane in their prison system even compared to the barbaric US, so I pointed out that as a beneficiary of imperialism the US doesn't need as brutal punishment in its own territory, it can reserve its oppressive violence for all its vassal fiefdoms in South America - such as, for instance, El Salvador.
Huh??? I asked those questions and you just didn't respond to them or provide any evidence for your assertion, you just moved the conversation on to different points and I followed along. You and the other guy have a habit of just ignoring questions you can't answer so I just let it slide. But again, what are you talking about purging statisticians? You know that word has a specific meaning of being expelled from the communist party, right? It's not just a synonym for 'being killed', so what statisticians are you talking about that were in the communist party and got expelled for, I'm guessing, "showing statistics that Stalin didn't like"?
im gonna try and any% speedrun this response
atl you understood the second paragraph, right? i was stating the US prison statistics from the similar period you asked for
firstly no it's that it still went into many of the governance horrors capitalist states are criticized for
secondly how does "oh look at that it was so much worse before" manage to give you anything to prove that
i never compared or even gave you an imprisonment rate. that's amount of prisoners divided by population. i gave the prison excess mortality rate, deaths divded by prison population. that's very different
i don't understand this logic. what makes brutal punishment necessary when you don't do imperialism?
yes i did did you even click on the link what did you think it was talking about