cross-posted from: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/26218551
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/26218550
(posting to both communities)
A carnist lemmy world instance admin has stepped in and meatsplained to the mods while restoring comments that violated the community's rules. They deleted comments that they did not agree with, citing 'misinformation', and threatened to demod the mods if those comments were removed again. The comments were deleted and the admin was banned from the community as per violating the rules of the community, that was until they unbanned themselves (admin abuse) and unmodded two of the moderators because of "promoting harmfull actions against pets".
As far as it stands, if the lemmy world community wasn't already not a safe vegan place for you (it really wasn't) it most certainly isn't now as carnists (lemmy world instance admin) currently mod it.
I suggest any vegan who wants a safe and welcoming space to come and interact with vegantheoryclub.org. Sorry for any inconvienance that this may have caused. I am deeply upset at the admins actions today and don't condone them whatsoever.
I actually agree in general, but this is like the one time in recent memory I have felt like whole heartedly cheering on the Lemmy.world administration team
If some other instance wants to scoop up the animal abuse demographic now that they are ejected from .world, I think we will all survive
Veganism is a philosophy and way of living that excludes all forms of animal exploitation and promotes animal-free alternatives.
That is misrepresenting the situations as vegans are the ones reducing animal abuse by not buying animals products and for holding those who do accountable.
A philosophy that should not be forced on another animal against their nature.
There's some hypocrisy here!
That is the no true scotsman fallacy. I could also say that bringing animals into our homes when they were originally from the wild is the hypocrisy here.
You really have no idea what any of the fallacies you throw out there really are so you xD
You could and would probably have a point.
But it doesn't make it ok for you just because someone else did before.
Your hypocrisy is the point here.
I don’t own pets. So I’m not hypocritical in both scenarios.
You're not even wrong.
Ah yes, its the people that are against harming animals that are the real animal abusers.
Feeding an animal a nutrionally complete diet: abuse
killing animals: not abuse
Feeding an obligatory carnivore plants = abuse. End of story.
Even if that was true, you're still killing other animals which is obviously more harmful/abusive to them than not giving them their favorite food instead of the same nutrients in a different package.
Yes, one animal dies to feed a different one. That's how it has always been. Starving a pet because you don't like the facts of life makes you a bad pet owner, nothing more. No moral highground, just abuse.
It's not abuse to feed an animal a nutritionally complete diet. There is no magical nutrient that exists in animals that cannot be artificially synthesized. Just because you don't care about animal suffering doesn't make it necessary or justified.
I care about animal suffering infinitely more than someone who starves their cat for their beliefs.