cross-posted from: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/26218551
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/26218550
(posting to both communities)
A carnist lemmy world instance admin has stepped in and meatsplained to the mods while restoring comments that violated the community's rules. They deleted comments that they did not agree with, citing 'misinformation', and threatened to demod the mods if those comments were removed again. The comments were deleted and the admin was banned from the community as per violating the rules of the community, that was until they unbanned themselves (admin abuse) and unmodded two of the moderators because of "promoting harmfull actions against pets".
As far as it stands, if the lemmy world community wasn't already not a safe vegan place for you (it really wasn't) it most certainly isn't now as carnists (lemmy world instance admin) currently mod it.
I suggest any vegan who wants a safe and welcoming space to come and interact with vegantheoryclub.org. Sorry for any inconvienance that this may have caused. I am deeply upset at the admins actions today and don't condone them whatsoever.
Was this some dumbass saying dogs and cats can be fine with a vegan diet? Because that is 100% Grade A bullshit and the admin's actions were justified.
Dogs can survive and thrive on a vegan diet, as long as it's fairly carefully tailored; dogs are not obligate carnivores, and the essential amino acids that they can't make themselves are available from non-animal sources.
Cats are obligate carnivores; the only natural source for at least one essential amino acid they need is meat. (I'm not sure which amino acid(s) it is, off the top of my head. Taurine? Lysine? Something else?) In theory you could heavily supplement a cat that was on a vegan diet and not kill it, but given that bioavailability of supplements isn't the same as that of whole foods, I wouldn't bet a life on it.
Have you looked at the research. Idk about cats, but research suggests for dogs it is okay. Dogs aren’t wolves anymore.
Please do not use ad hominems in your argument as we need to keep the discussion civil.
There are numerous studies suggesting that the plant-based diet is safe for dogs.
However for cats there are less studies, there are papers that suggest it is also safe for cats as long as taurine is provided in the diet.
"numerous studies"? source? (genuine curiosity, im not a vegan myself but people convinced vegans suck for being vegans are beyond insufferable and i just want to look more into this claim that goes against most of what i know)
That's not an ad hominem, just a regular insult.