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Hold liberals accountable or else you will be negotiating on who dies first with fascists
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Fascists always vote = fascists get what they want = idiots saying "voting doesn't work"
pretty sure it;'s not the voting.
pretty sure it's everything OTHER than the voting that gets them what they want. and the liberals refusing to let anyone stop them.
you'll notice that even when a fascist loses an election, like in 2000, they still get their guy in office sometimes.
or the fascists lose electoralism, and get the office anyway, because the left isn't big enough to fight them and the libs are happy to just let them.
and yeah the weird gaslighting ratchet effect 'im going to do the exact same thing the last guy did but libs are going to yell at you for not sucking my dick about it now' is not cool
also, you know, when they do riots to get their way. sometimes in an election.
why didn't it work? Trump literally isn't in office today. Unless we're talking about jan 6th, but that's an institutional problem, not a fascism problem.
fascism isn't when anything, fascism is literally just an authoritarian control structure powered by a chain of loyalty of unwavering support (hey wait a minute this sounds more like donald trump) further empowered through the use of violence to accomplish goals (hey wait a minute, this sounds more like donald trump also)
literally none of the things you list here are fascism, also the police thing isn't explicitly true, a lot of places did engage some level of de-policing, just to different levels. A lot places legalized weed, some places de-criminalized drug use, a lot of drug and low time offenders are getting light sentences.
The problem is institutional lag and inertia, you cannot simply delete an entire police force over night, you need to improve the community first, and then delete the police force, otherwise things become nightmarish. It would also help if the motto wasn't literally "defund the police" because that was a pretty fucking stupid choice of words.
Once community starts to improve, and crime starts to drop, the police will naturally follow, taxpayers dont like funding unnecessary police force, and police departments prefer not to host extraneous expenses.
Well it sounds like you have the secret knowledge of how to eliminate fascism.
Put the keyboard away and show us...
genuinely surprised they even said "fascism is not when donald trump" even though donald trump is the most textbook fascist in the US right now, and then proceeded to talk about defunding the police lol.
People don't want to hear that! Sheesh!
But really. Some people think voting and protesting is the epitome off not being lazy about about it, but it's the bare minimum.
You think ACAB? Be a cop and be the exception. You think the problem is higher up? Get involved in politics. You think it's corporate? Get involved with ethical companies, and shun unethical ones.
You think you shouldn't have to? That's because you've gotten lazy. There's nothing intrinsically wrong with that, it's just easy to take advantage of - and if you don't like the results of the laziness, eventually you'll like them so little you'll have to do something or die - and you'll probably get motivated at that point.
This is a very privileged point of view
That's a very psychologically weak take, and comes from the privilege of not having to take up these matters into your own hands, because our society had enough flexibility that you haven't had to. ..but that kind of weakness is pretty common these days, because people don't have a lot to live for.
Regardless of whether you have a lot of power, personally, or whether you don't have a lot of power, spending what you do have ethically and prudently matters a lot. Although many may not be able to make things better on their own, many have enough power that they will regret inaction later, when action becomes absolutely necessary, and no real preparation has been made.
In short: Call it privilege all you like, see where that gets you.
bro every complaint and problem in your life other than eating, drinking, and sleeping is literally a privileged problem.
Eating, drinking, and "sleeping" (shelter/safety) are significant hurdles for a large portion of the population
which is why those aren't privileged takes :)
What do you think about direct action?
Show us how, genius
If you're capable of implementing a structure that can actually stand, direct action may be warranted. If not, then not, unless violent anarchy is better.
Start small. Build your structure and run some group that way. ..and expand.
you work with what you’ve got until you have something better… right now, you have a vote between 2 teams… get the fuck over it and vote, and in between work for something better
but right now, in this moment, in november
YOU FUCKING VOTE AGAINST THE MOST FASCIST
i’m am not an american
i live across the other side of the world
we have to live with the consequences of your decisions
we don’t get a choice in the matter
its like you ignored his comment and responded to something else entirely. weird stuff.
They might, but I mostly know them as nutters out on the streets protesting or kicking up a fuss.