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The agency wants to lower how much salt we consume over the next three years to an average of 2,750 milligrams per day. That's still above the recommended limit of 2,300 mg.

The Food and Drug Administration on Thursday laid out fresh goals to cut sodium levels in packaged and processed foods  by about 20%, after its prior efforts to address a growing epidemic of diet-related chronic diseases showed early signs of success.

The FDA in October 2021 had set guidelines to trim sodium levels in foods ranging from potato chips to hamburgers in a bid to prevent excessive intake of salt that can trigger high blood pressure, a major risk factor for heart disease and stroke.

The agency is now seeking voluntary curbs from packaged-food makers such as PepsiCo, Kraft Heinz and Campbell Soup. The companies did not immediately respond to requests for comment.

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[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 months ago (6 children)

Agreed but the cigarette analogy is not really accurate.

Sugar is arguably good for you in moderation. We evolved to seek out sugar in the form of fruits, berries, etc. Quick energy, fast acting carbohydrates etc.

Can't think of how this translates to a single cigarette lol.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

We evolved to seek out sugar because it is energy dense in a time when food wasn't plentiful

Today we have more food than we know what to do with

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Processed sugar is arguably never good for you, even in moderation.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 months ago

I think you’re conflating natural occurring sugars to manmade sugars.

The natural sugars in fruits is okay. Adding 75-80% of the daily value of man made added sugars to ONE drink are what we are talking about.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

Nicotine helps with neural degeneration and things like dementia and alzheimers.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Agreed but the cigarette analogy is not really accurate.

why not? if you're going by "too much of anything is bad for you," then doesn't it follow that "NOT too much of anything isn't necessarily bad for you"?

so yea, one soda won't kill you = true. also one cigarette won't kill you = true.

what i'm getting at is that your "argument" isn't one

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

The human body doesn't need nicotine to survive

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The human body also doesn't need added sugars to survive.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

But it does need sugar to survive. Comparing sugar to cigarettes is kinda dumb. But you keep making whatever false equivalencies support your argument, boo.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

Yes, sugar is needed to survive, but a normal diet with little processed foods will supply more than enough. OP is talking about added sugars which are known to increase risk of heart disease, diabetes, liver disease, etc.

I agree that the comparison is dumb. Regardless, I think a better way to frame your previous statement is nicotine is a known carcinogen while glucose itself is not. Thanks for the snark lol not everything is confrontational. Ease up on your quills, hedgehog.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

You absolutely do not need to consume any sugar to survive.

What little sugar you do need (an absolutely tiny amount) your body can easily make itself.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The person you're replying to is clearly uninformed but I do want to let you know that like most things involving the human body, this isn't a one-size-fits-all problem. I did keto but I have nondiabetic hypoglycemia, which is how I got an A1C of 3.9, and how I found out how dangerous that is and that I do actually require some (preferably complex) carbohydrates every day.

I understand nondiabetic hypoglycemia is pretty rare so I still support you fighting misinformation (and especially that no one requires added sugars, which should, by now, just be common sense) but I did want to throw this out there, that folks should absolutely seek a doctor before going all in on a zero sugar diet.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

i never said it did, nor did i imply that it's good for you

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Comparing cigarettes to nicotine is a bad analogy. The body needs sugar (albeit a small amount) to survive. Cigarettes contain nothing the body needs.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

the body needs glucose which is A sugar. but "sugar" in the context of the conversation is referring to refined sugar, which the body absolutely doesn't need, and when it contains fructose (as in sucrose or HFCS, by far the most consumed sugars), then sorry, it's not good

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 months ago (2 children)

"In moderation" being the key part. As in, not selling drinks and snacks that are like 30% sugar

[–] [email protected] -2 points 3 months ago

As in, not selling drinks and snacks that are like 30% sugar

On the flip side, those snacks and drinks are ideal for athletes.

I wouldn't want to stop having those foods available, simply because the majority of the population are idiots when it comes to fueling their bodies.

People need to have some self control, ffs.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Agree 100%. And arguably "in moderation" is much lower than people might want it to be. Plus most of this stuff is processed with high fructose corn syrup trash.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

HFCS is literally just liquid sugar.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

HFCS is literally just liquid sugar.

HFCS isn't even just one product. There are different blends that are all HFCS. At the extreme, HFCS-90, is far FAR different than table sugar. HFCS-55 is close to table sugar (which would be numbered "50" if table sugar used that same numbering scheme), and there's HFCS-42 which is farther away from table sugar.

The Corn Refiners Association (CRA) have been successful in rebranding HFCS under a bunch of different names so you don't know it anymore. Current labeling has HFCS-90 (the worst kind) simply called "Fructose" on ingredient labels now. source

source2 which is a bit more sketchy to me

edit: corrected first source link

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

TIL thanks but source one is just a betting website ad from the link.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Thanks for replying, update with archive.org link