this post was submitted on 17 Oct 2023
0 points (NaN% liked)

Palestine

973 readers
8 users here now

A community for everything related to Palestine and the occupation currently underway by the occupying force known as Israel.

Anti-Zionism is not anti-Semitism. Existence is resistance for Palestinians.

Please refer to Israel as Occupied Palestine, or occupied territories. The IDF is a fascist and ethnonationalist occupying force. Israelis are settlers. We understand however that the imperial narrative (which tries to legitimise Israel) is internalised in the imperial core and slip-ups are naturally expected.

We always take the sides of Palestine and Palestinians and are unapologetic about it. Israel is an occupying power whose "defence force"'s (note the contradiction) sole purpose for existing is to push Palestinians out so they can resettle their rightful land. If you have anything positive to say about Israel we do not care.

founded 3 years ago
MODERATORS
 

Hila Klein served in the IDF, she told a story on their podcast in 2017 about how she was bored working at a desk for the IDF so she tagged along on a raid to a 'terrorist city', Ramallah. She reveals that the raids were happening nightly, and they were indeed stealing Palestinians from their homes.

Ramallah is the capital of Palestine, in the West Bank. It is considered to be the most affluent, cultural, and liberal city in Palestine. It has monuments to Yasser Arafat and Nelson Mandela.

These two are zionists, through and through. Do not believe their lies when they say they support Palestine.

See what one of these raids would be like:

https://www.tiktok.com/@millennial.chaos/video/7290695185061727494 https://www.tiktok.com/@millennial.chaos/video/7290812081798974726

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

6 years ago, they're both better on this now and at least Ethan has recently admitted that he can learn more and wants to improve his empathy for Palestinians. They are both libs that's true but they're curious and they're empathetic and they're trying. I think it's unproductive to continue bringing up past comments from times when they weren't as aware of their own indoctrination

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

they’re both better on this now and at least Ethan

?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

the 'this' that I was saying they are better on is that (i think) they both no longer consider all palestinians to be terrorists which is whats implied by calling ramallah a terrorist city. Ethan definitely still has a problem with seeing hamas as fighting for the freedom of palestine and not being brutal terrorists. I think that he was traumatized by the attack on israeli territory just like a lot of israelis were and he has had a hard time coming to grips with where he sees people standing on that attack but he hasn't let that emotion turn to support for what the state of israel is doing now and I know thats not good enough but for a normie its progress

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

im gonna be real with you chief, ethan is literally just a drug dealer who ended up becoming a youtube celeb he isnt worth following this closely or attatching this level of meaning to his actions

hes telling random men called mohammad they should be killed just for posting on social media, who ever he is he is unhinged

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

he isnt worth following this closely or attatching this level of meaning to his actions

I've never seen his twitter till you posted it

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

thats fair, im more getting at trying to rationalize a celebs perspective or such; its really not that important at the end of the day, american liberals gonna be wildin'

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

nothing that Ethan has said recently has convinced me that he isn't a zionist. Read my other comment

Hila compared this to the holocaust. Do you agree with that assessment? She said it feels like the holocaust again.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

when did Hila compare it to the holocaust? I didn't see a link for that on your substack

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It happened after I posted that, I need to write a new article with all of the new nonsense they've said. I wrote it before the Leftovers episode, which is where Hila said it.

https://youtu.be/JFznOHunD_c?t=2604

"a reminder the Holocaust wasn't that long ago and every every year on Holocaust day the thing they tell you is never forget you always have to tell the stories to everybody about what happened at the Holocaust and I it's always like something taken for granted for me you just grow up and you're like yeah Holocaust day you know it happened we all get it but what happened this time is really scary and it it really does bring up this topic"

https://youtu.be/JFznOHunD_c?t=2701

"it's important to empathize with how a Jewish person or specifically an Israeli might feel hearing these phone calls there are kids that survived because they were laying under their dead parents bodies and they laid there for hours the whole day and that's how they survived and the last time we heard stories like that was at the Holocaust"