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As one Subaru Crosstrek owner recently learned the hard way, it bears repeating that all-wheel drive is not the same as four-wheel drive. A Subie owner posted a warning letter they received a month after driving on Colorado River Overlook Road in Canyonlands National Park to the r/NationalPark subreddit. The letter notes that this particular road is restricted to 4WD vehicles only, and the Crosstrek is equipped with AWD, not 4WD. It also warns that they may face serious consequences if they’re caught taking an AWD car on a 4WD-only trail again.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago (4 children)

That's splitting hairs, tbh. Especially in the case of a Subaru. Though I guess it scares off anyone with a shitty AWD system from going on the trails.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Just because you don't know the difference doesn't make it splitting hairs.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

I know the difference. Subaru has, arguably the best AWD system on the market. That's what I mean. It's obviously dumb AF to say, take an AWD Equinox or some shit up a trail, but Subaru is a lot more capable than GM's AWD system.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I think there are a lot of factors here. We would actually need to be on the trail to point out where a 4x4 would be required and why. I take my awd suv off road all the time in places where it gets a bit hairy and I haven’t had a problem. However, I know when to stop and say “that’s a bit too uneven for me.” I think that understanding is the main difference for the people who get stuck.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Oh yeah, driver skill and awareness is the most important thing. Especially knowing what your machine is capable of.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

And neither AWD system has a low range gearbox like a 4WD system, which is the point of the NPS rule.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Not to mention clearance of cars doesn't match that of trucks.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

If there's only a cluch pack between the secondary axle and the prime mover, it's AWD and will overheat when you need it most. 4WD has dogs in the transfer case and the front and rear driveshaft are locked at the same speed.

I say a dual motor EV counts as 4x4

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Imagine a Cybertruck there. It's "4WD".

And as a longtime owner of both 4WD and AWD vehicles, it's not splitting hairs

[–] [email protected] -2 points 3 months ago

Now that the locking differential was released, is it not 4wd now?