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Indeed, there is some public data, such as from YouGov earlier this summer, pointing to how information on Project 2025 had started to emerge from closed-off partisan bubbles. “Overall, 20 percent of U.S. adult citizens say they’ve heard a lot about Project 2025, while 39 percent have heard a little and 42 percent have heard nothing at all,” the YouGov report reads. “Most Independents with an opinion about Project 2025 dislike it (7 percent favorable, 38 percent unfavorable), while Republicans are more positive (26 percent favorable, 12 percent unfavorable).”

This all explains why Trump and his senior staff have — falsely — claimed that he has nothing to do with the conservative project, to the point that he got his supporters to boo Project 2025 during a campaign stop. Trump and his ilk realize how much attention the project is receiving from voters and how woefully unpopular many of the outlined policy prescriptions are to the average citizen. In recent weeks, as Rolling Stone previously reported, Trump had privately vented to political advisers that Project 2025, specifically the abortion-related components of it, risked tanking his electoral chances ahead of November.

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[–] [email protected] 78 points 3 months ago (5 children)

They really must have thought no one would read it.

All they had to do was say they wanted to cut veterans' benefits and they already lost enough people to tell Project 2025 to fuck off.

There are over 16 million veterans in this country and who knows how many people in their families that rely on them and the benefits they receive. That sort of thing getting out is just poison.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

If Harris/Walz want to pull large swaths of people to their side, all they need to do is focus on VA cuts and how anti-union it is. Have Walz pop into a could IBEW halls and outright say "this organization will cease to exist if you don't vote out P25".

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I worry that they felt confident laying this out because they believe the fix is in, and that no popular resistance is going to stop it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

They also wanted a plan in place as Trump could win.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

They really must have thought no one would read it.

I think some of those wish list items are placed in there to cut out “by reaching across the aisle” during negotiations

But for a lot of the culture war bullshit, they genuinely seemed to have fallen for their own lie about there being a “silent majority” which wanted those things

They want Saudi Arabia in America because they desire the absolute control and power the royal family in SA has over its people. The culture war bullshit is just a means to an end

Edit, case in point https://www.advocate.com/politics/mark-robinson-wife-abortion-north-carolina-republican

But there are many other examples of hypocrisy

[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It was fine until the SC immunity ruling. Nobody was reading the 900 page policy book, and it sounded like conspiracy theory crap to normal folk.

This was actually very clever, since there's so much braying about conspiracy bullshit everywhere, most not-terminally-online people just react with eyerolls to anything that sounds too outrageous, which this did. Remember that the prevailing wisdom out there is that politicians are liars and both sides exaggerate to score political points, with us calling them fascists and them calling us communists, etc etc.

But then the SC came around and said Presidents get to commit crimes. This is a simple principle everyone can understand, so it can be communicated very easily, and that's exactly what happened. And lo-and-behold, it was not an exaggeration, that is exactly what the SC said.

This made everyone take the proj 2025 thing much more seriously, turning what had been fodder for supporters and under-the-radar for everyone else into a pretty big across-the-board loss. John Roberts and his more "moderate" conservatives essentially torpedoed the Heritage Foundation. lol

The real question for future historians will be: Did he do it on purpose? Before that ruling, the nation was largely sleepwalking towards authoritarianism. Now it's a fight, and that SC ruling was the tipping point, a bit of an "is this what you want?" sort of wakeup call. I don't think so personally, but it's a fun question. Either way, the two things combined into a collosal self-own for the authoritarian movement.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago

The only good thing about fascism is that it destroys itself. If it destroys itself because of that SC ruling before it even really gets going, I won't complain.

Hopefully it implodes soon.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago

Which revelation is actually most helpful and beneficial. I mean ultimately a 2 or even 3+ party system, where each party is serious about doing the best for all of the US and the world would be ideal. And for Nov 2024, GOP needs to lose and lose hard.