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Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer will introduce legislation Thursday reaffirming that presidents do not have immunity for criminal actions, an attempt to reverse the Supreme Court’s landmark decision last month. 

Schumer’s No Kings Act would attempt to invalidate the decision by declaring that presidents are not immune from criminal law and clarifying that Congress, not the Supreme Court, determines to whom federal criminal law is applied.

The court’s conservative majority decided July 1 that presidents have broad immunity from criminal prosecution for actions taken within their official duties — a decision that threw into doubt the Justice Department’s case against Republican former President Donald Trump for his efforts to overturn his 2020 election loss.

Schumer, of New York, said that Congress has an obligation and the constitutional authority to check the Supreme Court on its decision.

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[–] [email protected] 158 points 3 months ago (3 children)

I still think the correct response to that would have been Biden unilaterally ordering the arrest of the supreme court, citing the immunity they had just granted him. Then asking if maybe they would like to change their mind and not actually arresting them

[–] [email protected] 58 points 3 months ago (2 children)

The problem with this ruling was that they left "official act" incredibly vague, giving the SC the power in determining legitimate acts that are immune

People keep saying Biden should just order a drone strike on the justices or his opponent but the next court could just be like 'nope, not allowed' and throw him in jail

They really need to clarify it so that the SC can't legislate from the bench

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The problem with this ruling was that they left “official act” incredibly vague, giving the SC the power in determining legitimate acts that are immune

But if they were arrested they wouldn't be able to rule against Biden. 🤔

[–] [email protected] -3 points 3 months ago (2 children)

The next seated judges would.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Keep arresting them.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Even if they did, so what? Good, even!

As long as the fascists are removed from the Court, the job is done.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Sure, but it increases the volatility and partisan nature of the court

I don't think SC reform is optional, nor do I think executive immunity is a solution. A fun one-time trick to make a point isn't going to fix the systemic issues of the court or legislature.

Edit: a huge symptom of the dysfunction of the federal government is the power that's accumulating into the executive. 'You can do whatever you want so long as the court happens to agree with you' is just shit politics.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I'm not really sold on constitutionalism, but the least we could do is make it democratic.

Appoint every adult in America to the Supreme Court and let the majority decide what the Constitution means. 🤷‍♀️

[–] [email protected] 26 points 3 months ago

left “official act” incredibly vague, giving the SC the power in determining legitimate acts that are immune

For the last few decades conservatives have been building a SCOTUS with the sole intent of centralizing as much power as possible within them as they aren't elected and have lifetime positions. They go for the youngest heritage foundation choices so they can retain that power for as long as possible.

Chevron Deference is another perfect example of a power grab by the corrupt SCOTUS.

[–] [email protected] 110 points 3 months ago (1 children)

No, not arrest. He should issue an executive order stating that all their property be seized using eminent domain. Of course he should do that while they're in session and then immediately send Federal Marshals to go and change all the locks on all the properties and secure their contents and tow all their vehicles. He can then sell all of it at auction to pay for programs providing broadband and health care for poor people

When all the uproar starts over that, he should then close the Supreme Court building and put it up for sale for the same purpose, then rent a space in a D.C. strip-mall for SCOTUS to use as office space and to hold hearings in. You know, treat them with the respect they deserve.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I don't think the Marshals have enough manpower to seize all of Thomas's "totes not bribes they're just gifts bro!"

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago
[–] [email protected] -5 points 3 months ago (3 children)

That seems like a colossally stupid thing to do.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 3 months ago

Well, the Supreme Court has become colossally stupid, so it’s appropriate. It’s simply malicious compliance.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 months ago

It is apparently necessary to show the real world implications in practice for people to understand.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Why? Biden's immune and a lame duck, especially after the election.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

It would give them ammo for all the crap they've been saying about him from the beginning. And as much as it sucks, what the president does will affect what happens in November. Doesn't happen in a vacuum.