Cross-posted from "TRUE communism!" by @[email protected] in [email protected]
this post was submitted on 02 Jul 2025
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How would left unity work?
Anarchism and MLism are so different from each other that any unity between supporters of either would be short lived. Like the unity between the USSR and the USA during WW2.
In my ideal postrevolutionary society, there would be special political/economic zones where anarchists could live and try to build a model for the society of the future, sheltered from external threats by the communist state. I don't think anarchists and MLs necessarily need to be at odds.
That's an interesting idea
You realize that that idea basically means that anarchists would have to help MLs seize power their way, and then hope they stick to their promises (because they're then at their mercy). For me, It's an absurd idea on its face and only serves to make us willing tools.
You should actually look up the history of and contemporary anarchism in socialist states. Hell Mao himself was in anarchist circles in his college days. You just like to stir shit for no reason at all. This meme you posted is not a principled critique and is just a tired liberal trope. As anarchists we should do better. But frankly I expect nothing better from you given my past encounters with you.
Don't care for your toxic opinions either way.
Willful ignorance is not a good look.
Not ignorant. Just don't interact with toxic people
I don't agree with that at all. We all have fundamentally the same goals, just slightly different ways of organising and reaching them. There are far, far more things we agree on than disagree on, and on the latter we're able to disagree on things respectfully.
You've also got to remember, we're not revolutionaries or a party, we're just people on a webforum. If a revolution was suddenly magicked out of thin air we might have a falling out, but until then what's the problem? Most of our posting now is just criticism of our current world anyway, which is something we're all very much aligned on.
Since when was it anarchist's goal to enslave the working class to party bureaucrats?
Yeah true, that's quite different to the anarchist goal of burning down every structure and having us all live in a state of violent primitive chaos.
Oh wait, I'm not an idiot so I don't actually believe that.
Oh, no... seems to me that you tankies just love forcing the working class to contend with a "state of violent primitive chaos."
Hey, you know what? I figured out why you tankies don't just use AI to write all your claptrap secular Catholocist dogma for you - it's because you're afraid AI might actually be more coherent than you are.
Sure, but those methods are severly different.
FWIW: I think left unity is pretty important now, during another rise in fascism, but I don't think it will last long.
That's a really good take, actually.
As a wise kangaroo once said
Personally, I dont think its important if left-unity its temporary or permanent so long as it last long enough to overthrow the capitalist system.
Glad we're on the same page on this at least