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[–] [email protected] -3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

No liberal is a leftist, liberalism is right-wing, while leftism is Socialist

That's factually not correct though. I understand and agree there is a difference between leftist and liberal, but the rest is just blatantly wrong.

Here's a history lesson on left and right wing;

https://www.history.com/news/how-did-the-political-labels-left-wing-and-right-wing-originate

Left means progressive, right means traditional. Liberals are progressive and left leaning. Less so in the US, but still not right wing.

Your comment is excluding specific progressives and mislabeling them because they're not as progressive as you. That's what I mean by elitist.

Additionally, no one here is silencing anyone, unless you can pull up some proof that a liberal mod is deleting leftist comments in this thread for being leftist. Everything in these comments is just discussion.

Also, I agree. There are some specify anti-leftist liberal comments here and on Lemmy. That is frustrating and my comments aren't meant to support that, just to point out the hypocrisy I saw. Almost everyone here is anti-fascist and anti-maga, we can be a bit more civil in our disagreements

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

That's factually not correct though. I understand and agree there is a difference between leftist and liberal, but the rest is just blatantly wrong.

It is not "blatantly wrong."

Here's a history lesson on left and right wing;

https://www.history.com/news/how-did-the-political-labels-left-wing-and-right-wing-originate

I'm aware.

Left means progressive, right means traditional.

Broadly, yes.

Liberals are progressive and left leaning. Less so in the US, but still not right wing.

Incorrect, entirely. Liberalism is the status quo, ergo it cannot be considered left. Liberalism supports Capitalism and is a right-wing ideology, to be left is to go against that status quo.

Your comment is excluding specific progressives and mislabeling them because they're not as progressive as you. That's what I mean by elitist.

I'm not being "elitist," I am pointing out that Liberalism is not progressive, it's the status quo. I myself am a Marxist, and believe leftism to be correct, but not elite.

Additionally, no one here is silencing anyone, unless you can pull up some proof that a liberal mod is deleting leftist comments in this thread for being leftist. Everything in these comments is just discussion.

In Lemmy.world's modlog, you can find comments and posts removed for being "commie," and Lemmy.world defederates from explicitly Marxist instances.

Also, I agree. There are some specify anti-leftist liberal comments here and on Lemmy. That is frustrating and my comments aren't meant to support that, just to point out the hypocrisy I saw. Almost everyone here is anti-fascist and anti-maga, we can be a bit more civil in our disagreements

It's usally confined to right-leaning instances like Lemmy.world and sh.itjust.works.