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[–] [email protected] -4 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Biden is the best chance of winning. Any other choice means Trump wins.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Literally every point of actual data disagrees with you.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

What did the data say for Hillary vs Trump? Pretty accurate eh?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Actually, yeah. That election turned out within the margin of error of the polls.

Everyone who was surprised by the result needs media literacy classes.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'm just not buying that. I think Biden's people and a lot of people walking on eggshells for him may have convinced themselves of that (maybe). But I bet that narrative flips the minute he steps down.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I’m not buying that. Trying to change candidates this late in the game is such a bad idea that the only person that would suggest it is someone who wants Trump to win.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

That must be why the Republicans desperately want to run against him.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Given that every point of data shows Trump winning in a landside, and probably getting the house and Senate, if Biden stays in suggests that people advocating for Biden staying in want Trump to win.

See what I did there?

Fun fact, actual data supports one and only one of us.

Are you a Russian bot that wants Trump to win?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

What did the data say for Hillary vs Trump? Was it accurate?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

So.... Let me get this right. Your only response is literally a named fallacy?

What does your gut say the stock market will do next month, oh wonderful and correct Oracle?

[–] [email protected] -3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

My response was a question that you seem to be avoiding.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Your response was irrelevant. It's not even data. It's a literal named fallacy.

"Trump won once, so he will again" is literally the same statement.

Take a critical thinking class, cause you really don't know how.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Again, I’m pointing out that the predictions you’re using are inaccurate and changing candidates this late in the game would cause a clusterfuck so big it would be a guaranteed win for Trump.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Referencing a time when an election turned out within the margin of error of polling isn't really pointing out that the predictions are inaccurate. It's pointing out that you don't have the media literacy to interpret polling results.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Why do you say that? Every dem and "independent" I talk to tell me they don't want Biden or Harris but they'd be eager to vote for anyone under 60 who is even remotely progressive.

If Biden did a press conference with Newson tomorrow announcing he's passing his campaign to a new generation they would be totally psyched.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Every non-maga I talk to is happy to vote for him. This idea that no one wants Biden is something I’m only hearing on lemmy. And the timing is pretty sus

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

It's possible your experience is very anecdotal. Everyone I talk to that is not magabrained says they'll vote for him, if they must. That's the key part: if they must. Most of them wish there was almost any other Democrat in there.

The polls show that 2/3 of Democrats want him to bow out, but apparently Biden and team is more concerned with his ego. Again, if he stays in, I'm voting for him. But I think the Democrats will get absolutely crushed all up and down the ballot if he stays in.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Where do you live? 1600 Pennsylvania ave?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I don't care about arbitrary numbers for age, but Biden just looks lost. It's about cognitive decline. I'll vote him anyway, but a lot of normies think he's "too old" and that means he might not win against someone that should be very beatable (donnie).