this post was submitted on 08 Jul 2023
0 points (NaN% liked)
Late Stage Capitalism
5645 readers
1 users here now
founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
Seymour Hersh is a conspiracy blogger??? You want to tell me all the previous times when he was correct like was also conspiracy theories? My Lai, Watergate, CIA support for Pinochet, Israel having nukes, Abu Ghraib, etc. ???
Small part of the consequence of NATO being "Bad, and inviting disaster" since it been founded and especially since 1991.
All works for me, just checked, but nvm
This isn't "horrible cycle of retribution", this is ongoing imperialism and specifically USA efforts to maintain their global hegemony in the capitalist system - an infinite growth in finite planet. And even the hot part of that war wasn't started by Russia, it was started by Ukraine attacking Donbas in 2014, Russian intervened in that in 2022.
Additionally here's this article that pointedly refutes many of the main claims of Seymour Hersh's article.
https://oalexanderdk.substack.com/p/blowing-holes-in-seymour-hershs-pipe
Also there's only one anonymous source on Seymour Hersh's article.
It's plausible that the USA had a part in it, but hardly conclusive.
I'll fully admit that I hadn't read the entire thing or did due diligence on the sources prior to my comment. That's a mistake I just did, and I will not be removing my previous comment, but striking it out with an added a correction as an abject lesson & to walk back the clearly erroneously statement. This is a bad habit of mine when I see vitriol online, particularly when it has a flavor of Russian state Media talking points.
~~Thank you for pointing me to this guy's blog. That is very promising to me, someone who likes to be informed by people who do their due diligence.~~ (Hold up one more time! Here is a article that I found that refutes Seymour Hersh's assertions. Also, we only have a single anonymous source of S. Hersh's claims. https://oalexanderdk.substack.com/p/blowing-holes-in-seymour-hershs-pipe) I don't like the idea that the US did this on Ukraine's behalf, but that doesn't make me think that Russia is the good guys, actually. The number of things that Ukraine and the United States would have to do to outweigh the atrocities that Russia has perpetrated, especially in starting this war for reuniting 'Greater Russia.' Not for standing against Capitalism, which is alive and well in the de facto fascist-oligarchy that is the modern Russian state.
Russia horribly mischaracterized a political pressure cooker, and made it tremendously worse by invading. You are repeating that purposeful propaganda in this moment. Protecting 'ethnic russians' was never the goal.
I suppose next you'll tell me that the Crimean peninsula vote to join Russia was above board?
Even the comments in this article you linked are criticising it pretty hard. Again, this is the guy who was consistently correct in decades, and the Nordstream issue is hottest potato since "Cuban" missile crisis, a literal attack on ally by USA and part of escalation which might as well lead to WW3. Of course a lot of people and institutions are gonna try to deflect it really hard.
https://dessalines.github.io/essays/us_atrocities.html
Yawn, cut and slice and gotcha moment.
We really don't have anything to talk about.
I can only urge you to diversify your news intake with non-social media sources, as social media is corrosive to media literacy.