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[–] [email protected] 28 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The Dems really messed up imo by not screwing the others out of primaries and debates with Biden. They totally rigged it for Biden and now they don't have much choice but to keep trying to push forward, but they knew what they were getting into. They've known Biden wasn't well for a long time

[–] [email protected] 23 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

Exactly, the moment to replace him was from the get-go. Now we're logistically in too deep without splitting the entire party and essentially just handing the win to Trump. (Thanks so much DNC, it's totally clear you know better than the voters in your own party. /s)

I blame ineffectual Democrats who are more concerned with their power inside their own party for the rise of fascism as much as the fascists themselves, because their fucking buffoonery and chicanery literally enable the fascist Republican crime spree.

I mean fuck, look how long they carted out Dianne Feinstein pretending she was still a functional human being instead of just running anyone the fuck else.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

They are fine with Trump pulling the country further to the right and lowering the bar for 2028. Whatever they have to do to keep from moving left with all the poors.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

Then maybe the incumbent president should sit the fuck down and go back to sleep. Usually the third party runs anyway and siphons votes away.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

How often does either party primary an incumbent president? Wikipedia only lists five notable one. And also has this little factoid that shows it usually backfires for the party.

Since the advent of the modern primary election system in 1972, an incumbent president has never been defeated by a primary challenger, though every president who faced a strong primary challenge went on to be defeated in the general election.

Edit - Forgot my wiki link. =(

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I wonder how many of those 5 had an incumbent who was no longer capable of running a country.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

He's running the country right now, unless you think it's really Obama and/or the Lizard People.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

Never so far. There's a first time for everything.

But there's also the option of not primarying him and just not running Biden at all.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago

Excellent point, I wasn't aware of that one. Not that we should always treat the past as indicative of the future, but rather, it's clear that choosing such a path is playing with fire. For a litany of reasons.

Sadly, with Trump, we can't afford to play with fire, period.