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I saw an article about them attacking Lebanon now. So, where will it stop? Have the Israeli government ever spoken about this?

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

Basically the situation in Israel/Palestine is that Hamas has pretty much total iron first control of Gaza, and Israel has a very right wing government. The Israelis have vowed to destroy Hamas entirely, but Hamas is deeply entrenched in every aspect of life in Gaza so what Israel is doing is actually pretty much the only way to rid the region of Hamas, but it comes at an extreme cost and involves a lot of war crimes.

It probably is the only way to get rid of Hamas, but its going to cause so much resentment that peace in Gaza will be completely unattainable within your j or mine. But in short yes, they're going to kill anyone with even loose ties to Hamas and if you're a civilian standing too close, oh well.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

Hamas has pretty much total iron first control of Gaza

I was under the impression the IDF had a bit of influence there, what with all the tanks and bombers and soldiers scouring every inch of the war-blasted landscape.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

That's the problem isn't it? Hamas was actually running a government. For reference about 13 percent of people in the US work for the government. Now think about their friends, contractors, and families. How high do you think that percentage is? How high does it become after you kill half that 13 percent while they're just trying to distribute aid and run hospitals?

They absolutely know what they mean they say they're going to destroy Hamas, but the West pictures Hamas solely as a bunch of fighters, separate from the hospitals, sewage departments, police, and etc.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Hamas has pretty much total iron first control of Gaza

Don't you mean Israel has pretty much total iron first control of Gaza? Hamas does not control the borders, the monetary policy, electricity, water (via a racist system of permits being habitually denied), airspace, sea, population registry, international trade, ID cards, or travel to and from Gaza. Israel does. Israel even sells the drilling rights for natural gas off the coast of Gaza.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

Gaza has a border with Egypt as well. If Egypt were so inclined, they could open it and allow all sorts of trade and humanitarian relief. They could even set up a refugee camp to protect civilians from harm. They would rather not open the border because they don't want Hamas to get a toe hold in Egypt.

Also as far as mineral rights go, the reason every partition plan has been shot down in the past is that the Palestinian side will not accept anything less than the entirety of Israel/Palestine and this has been the case going back to the first partition plan proposed by the league of nations in 1947. But as a result of not agreeing to any of the partition plans Palestine is not legally regarded as a country. And therefore doesn't have mineral rights. Sucky but true.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

Gaza has a border with Egypt as well.

Not anymore. The IDF controls the strip of land between Gaza and Egypt and has secured it against any further aid crossing the border.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

Ok next item was "monetary policy".