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In China, It’s Already Cheaper to Buy EVs Than Gasoline Cars::undefined

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

They are far simpler with fewer parts. It is only a matter of scaling up manufacturing. The biggest cost is the battery.

BYD is closing in on Tesla as the largest EV manufacturer and most Americans have no idea they exist.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is BYD a China state run company?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

It's not an SOE and like half of its stocks are owned by Americans. But the parent company got some government funding according to the US Congress, so the whole conglomerate is considered an SOE by America now. Sounds like trade war stuff to me lol

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I visited the BYD factory years ago. I have no idea how big it is compared to others but it absolutely blew my mind. I was up on like 5th floor and when they sounded the lunch bell it looked like ants out the window. I think they said it was about 600k employees in that building.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

600k seems a bit too much. That's a fairly large city.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I don't know how many workers BYD have, but Foxconn flagship factory is Longhua Science & Technology Park and it is a small city with hundreds of thousands people working there. Check the Google Maps satellite view, it's crazy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

It being huge is an understatement. They have dorms where people live on-site and it’s they are massive. Multiple soccer complexes and tons of restaurants all on campus.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

BYD has chosen not to approach the US market until at least 2030.

Edit: Busses

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They're building buses in California. I drive by this plant on occasion.

https://en.byd.com/news/byd-produces-400th-bus-in-lancaster

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I personally like myself a Yutong E series... especially with the (fake) wood floor option and dark grey interior.

Why can't all public transport interiors be designed so nicely 😭

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

I was in China two months ago and the use of electric cars is honestly changing the feeling of big cities. Delivery motorcycles and service vehicles are all electric now, and with the number of electric cars on the road, streets are a lot quieter now barring the frequent honking. Less air pollution too.

What I love about Chinese electric car manufacturers is that they've fully embraced the cyberpunk aesthetic from the chassis design to the car sounds. Made me feel like I was walking around a cyberpunk movie set.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What I love about Chinese electric car manufacturers is that they’ve fully embraced the cyberpunk aesthetic from the chassis design to the car sounds.

So, the Vaporwave color pallete?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I just got back from a business trip to China also. The high proportion of EVs, particularly in the southern cities like Guangzhou and Shenzhen really stood out to me, and many of them (particularly from BYD) looked really, really nice. They seemed less prominent in the more northern part of the country (e.g. Shenyang, Beijing), but even there I'd say they're more common than in the UK.

It was a real eye opener

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That was my experience as well. Very prevalent in Sichuan, but less so in Shanghai. Still, even in Shanghai, they were leagues ahead of Canada.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I mean, there's only 35 million people in Canada, a country with a larger land mass than China. The charging infrastructure in Canada is pitiful.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Would be interesting to see. The Chinese EVs being pushed on the market here (Europe) are the typical ugly huge American SUV style.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do you have pictures? I would love to see.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I found this article from last year showing some interesting models. You'll see the most popular EVs range from more classical designs to weird and retro-futuristic.

Some of them also make futuristic noises when they drive around... The noise isn't needed at all because the motor is pretty much silent, so they're added by manufacturers so you hear them coming. I swear they sound like something out of a '90s sci-fi flick.