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[–] [email protected] 125 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Welp, hope they're backed up somewhere in an uncentralised, segmented, shareable form where people can still access them from the internet.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 4 months ago (1 children)

There's a Minecraft server that has books and articles stored. it's called The Uncensored Library, (visit.uncensoredlibrary.com), and they have various articles and books that are free to view. The Uncensored Library was created by Reporters Without Borders. If I were the people of the Internet Archive, I'd be talking to the folks in the RSF about porting some of their content to this virtual library.

[–] [email protected] 53 points 4 months ago (2 children)

It only contains a relatively small collection of banned reporting from various countries, not the whole Internet Archive, and only in the form of in-game books, not anything really usable IRL. It's neat but basically a promotional project for RWB.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

IRL. It’s neat but basically a promotional project for RWB.

you could easily stuff a script to rip the books out and stuff them into usable formats pretty easily, minecraft worlds are just a list of files.

Though i haven't verified this, and i'm not going to so.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I had a look at this map and ifirc the problem is that the Minecraft books have a very small word limit. Only a few hundred words. You cannot even put a full article on a Minecraft book, let alone an actual book.

It was rather underwhelming to be honest.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

yeah that sounds about right. Limiting engines be limited after all

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Maybe I'm just seeing potential where there isn't any, but I really think if the people of the Archive could find a way to get their stuff stored in TUL, or perhaps build a Library of their own, the publishers couldn't go after them then, because to the outside observer, all they see is a buncha dudes playing Minecraft.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

It's just not practical -- no Minecraft server or map can realistically hold all the books in the Archive, or even just the 500k that were removed. Even if it could, you'd only be able to read them by literally taking your avatar to the book object and reading it in the tiny in-game interface.

The Minecraft thing is just a gimmick to promote awareness of press freedom and censorship, not a plausible way to deliver books to people. If the IA wanted to "set books free" they'd be better off using torrents or something like Libgen (and even then they'd still be criminally liable for making the files available, even if the publishers couldn't stop the files from being shared further).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Maybe the fact you have to be there and read it while connected is the secret sauce to prove that it's a "real" library, meaning they have a fixed number of copies (max players connected to the server at any given time) and that helps them get protected the same way a real library is?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Doubt thats the point. I mean, real libraries at this point also lend out e-books, and i dont think they have an upper limit. Probably more to do that libraries (or the cities that finance them) have deals with publishers, and IA doesnt.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

YMMV, but my local library system has a limit on the number of e-books that can be checked out at a time. Some e-books they only have 1 or 2 “copies” of, other they have 20+ “copies”. Seems dumb to me that there’s a limit, but I’m sure they’re forced to do it for a reason.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

Ugh. Oh well, cant have nice things i guess