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Not to be overly disillusioned (though I am), but does this petition accomplish anything that isn't merely performative?
In the USA it's performative, but in the EU it means they will actually need to talk about it.
Yeah, so performative. I've seen quite some petitions for the German parliament which made the threshold, so that the representatives had to talk about it. They talked and all ended with "No, won't do". I expect the same to happen in the European Parliament, even after clearing those ridiculously high thresholds.
i would think they were either extreme far left or extreme far right. stopkillinggames isnt controversial.
Not at all.
You can't force anyone to carry on running servers after their business dies, and you can't force them to release code that might be licensed from somebody else.
Realistically, the onus is on us, and all we can really do is refuse to buy or engage with games that use this model, and if we do then at least accept that one day it will be gone, no matter how much time and money we've tipped into it.
I am amazed at how powerful one video can be to blind people to the whole discussion.
No, no one expects them to nor does it say so anywhere in the language of the petition.
what on eventual law can do is force developers to plan ahead. you can absolutely force them to release code.
The EU can very much dictate how businesses do business in Europe. Consumer protection is one of their responsibilities.
The initiative however says nothing about forcing anyone to run servers or to release code. If you think that, you missed the entire point. Games in the past used to work just fine after being abandoned without keeping servers online or releasing code.
If it passes, there will need to be a way to play offline or to host one's own server after the official ones shut down, or an EOL date advertised along with the product.
No, the EU council and parliament will just discuss it AFAIK. They are not bound to follow up with legislature, as thats still up to the lawmakers.
Exactly. It's really unnerving the amount of misinformation still being discussed after all this time. All the information was in the website since the beginning. This petition only forces the EC to talk about the topic. That's it. They'll probably ask for opinion of the industry and of consumer protection groups.
Thanks for clarifying
You are welcome. Still, this is only true if the suggested law passes, and the petition meeting the 7-country & 1M signature thresholds only guarantees it will be considered by the European Parliament.