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There are few things fascists hate as much as antifascist coalitions (lemmy.world)

submitted 5 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Given two ways to help Biden win the election:

Pressure Biden to stop the genocide.
Pressure people to support Biden even though he'll continue the genocide.

When someone chooses 2) and not 1), it's telling me that they'd rather see people accept Biden's Zionist goals than see Biden accept popular will.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

So, while in a perfect world, I agree with you... The current problem that exists is that opposite to Biden is Trump. And while Biden is currently engaging in a performance of seeing how quickly he can erase a red line after drawing it, Trump:

Has on record stated that Israel must "finish the problem"
Is the spearhead of the project 2025 plan
Is also domestically terrible (to sum it up in one awful term... He's hard-line "Anti-woke")

Given the above, can you understand how, even though its a terrible, awful, disgusting decision to make, a lot of voters will want as many people as possible to still vote for Biden, despite acknowledging his terrible policy? How these voters understand what they are enabling, but they also understand that the alternative is the potential democratic collapse (project 2025) of the USA?

Edit: in addition to the above, what @[email protected] also stands as needing to be answered... Where is the mass outraged call for the right to (in a non-antisemitic way) support Palestine if elected? As far as I'm concerned, ive not seen a single call to action for that side.

[+] [email protected] -6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

In a perfect world there'd be genocide?

Again, just stand in solidarity with Palestinians. Listen to them, listen to their advocacy groups.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Thank you for totally failing to engage with anything I typed 👍

[–] [email protected] -4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

You said "Biden is the lesser evil" but it took you 3 paragraphs. If a voting strategy has led you to apologize for genocide, you need a new strategy. Listen to the people whose tents are being bombed. Listen to their advocacy groups.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Respectfully, I dont believe we're going to shift each other's views at a rate where it's feasible to undertake this via a Lemmy thread. I will disengage from here, feel free to take this as a "win" if you're the type of person to do that. I sincerely and genuinely wish you luck in your approach, I would love to be proven wrong.

Edit: typo

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Except your option 1 people are rife with Trump loyalists, Russian propoganda, and naive fools.

Where’s the call to the GOP to stop voting to support Israel? Oddly silent on that side.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 5 months ago

Said like someone who's never been near an anti-Trump protest.