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Do some ML cosplay as anarchists to circumvent redscare? (lemmygrad.ml)

submitted 5 days ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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I'm running around in leftist circles a lot since beginning of last year. I first got introduced to socialism through anarchism [stereotype alert] started to read and went pretty straight to communist and then ML pretty recently. The shoe is still new but it fits very well so far.

Whenever I bring up socialism and communism (let alone ML), I get a lot of flak from other leftists and especially from anarchists. Yet, I feel like a couple anarchist agitators sound like MLs just cosplaying. It would make sense as anarc kids are totally open for socialist ideas if one lets out the "science" part which irritates me a lot.

Does anyone have similar experience or is able to explain?

Btw pls let me know if this is inappropriate to ask. I dont mean to offend anyone.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago (11 children)

Marxist-Leninist? Or do you mean which features?

I mean that some agitators use similar rhetoric (as in strong focus on class, pointing out state propaganda, militant tendencies, etc.) some even show anti imperialist patterns. I'm glad they exist. I just wonder because IRL, the anarchists I know have zero understanding of the capitalism-fascism contingency for example. The agitators mostly do know it and point it out imo which I like.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 days ago (10 children)

Anarchists are also socialists after all, so you will hear a similar rhetoric from them. The main difference is that for anarchists, state is the primary contradiction, rather than class.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 days ago (7 children)

That is the reason mostly why i went from anarchism to classic socialism.

I read about anarchism and found huge hierarchies in local groups which were really aggressive when I pointed that out. That gave me the impression that its the same thing but less transparent and easily abused.

I'm sure that is not the case everywhere but thats when I noped out and went classic socialist, etc.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

i have no idea what you mean by classic socialism

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

As in not libertarian socialism (which anarchists are described as in the anarchcist faq). The "dictature of the proletariat" thing. Maybe I'm mixing up terms here. Not sure.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago

You might mean Scientific Socialism, but someone else can correct me.

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