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'He’s truly lost his mind': Lindsey Graham ripped after calling D-Day a 'failure' on CBS
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Well, I explained my reasoning in great detail. Do you disagree with any specific point?
It's clear that what he's saying is that reaching the point where D-Day was necessary is a failure on our part because Hitler should have been stopped much sooner and that what's happening now in Russia has nothing to do with NATO's expansion and is all because of Putin that would have pushed to expand Russia's territory no matter what because he dreams of recreating the Russian Empire.
What he's implying is that the lessons from WW2 should apply here and we shouldn't wait for a second D-day to be necessary before acting on that front.
I'm not a WW2 buff, but I painted my understanding of the USA's pre-D day readiness and why we didn't jump in directly until forced.
If that's inaccurate, I'm interested in hearing a counter argument.
So if your interpretation of his words are correct, it seems like it's counter to what historians believe WRT to US's readiness to mobilize our forces at the time. At least as I understand it.
So either I understand this history here in correctly (very possible), or Lindsay is talking out his ass in a surprisingly specific way (also very possible), or he's dog whistling for Nazis in that the US should have stayed out of it.
Given the rewriting of Nazi history that the GOP has been practicing for years, I'm going with dog whistling.
Edit - Just wanted to address the NATO point. I don't think anyone's disagreeing with that. No one but Russian propagandists even claim that Russia attacked because of the NATO application.
Did you read the quote?
Churchill didn't think the war was unnecessary because the Germans should have been allowed to do what they wanted
https://scottmanning.com/content/what-did-churchill-mean-by-unnecessary-war/
The "we" in the quote isn't the USA only either.